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cholas Hill &lt;fernh <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org= /TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd"><html xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/1999/xht= ml"><head> <meta content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUTF-8" http-equiv=3D"Content-Type= "/> =20 </head><body style=3D""> =20 <div> The reason Herbicides  are so much better from a farmers point of v= iew </div>=20 <div> David is that herbicides kill the weeds close to the planted crop. </div>=20 <div> The weeds in the middle of the rows are not very harmful and are easy </div>=20 <div> to control by cultivation. </div>=20 <div> However the weeds close to the plants cause the reduction in yields. </div>=20 <div> They rob moisture, nutrients sunlight and harbour insects but there </div>=20 <div> is no way a farmer can remove them by cultivation. short of the old hand= hoe. </div>=20 <div> In addition they make harvesting more difficult by not allowing the crop </div>=20 <div> to dry out in the short days of fall. </div>=20 <div> Farmers tell me herbicides give the best return on investment of </div>=20 <div> all their inputs. But maybe we would like to pay more for food! </div>=20 <div> Enjoy the thaw </div>=20 <div> Paul </div>=20 <div>   </div>=20 <blockquote style=3D"padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 0px; border-left-co= lor: blue; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; position: rela= tive;" type=3D"cite"> On February 4, 2016 at 8:33 AM David Patriquin <davidgpatriquin@yaho= o.ca> wrote: <br/> <br/>=20 <div style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue= , Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-= color: #ffffff;">=20 <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1454588368905_3891">   </div>=20 <div>   </div>=20 <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1454588368905_3894" dir=3D"ltr"> Incororating resistance to Roundup & now a couple of other herbici= des (because weeds also becoming resistant) in GMO crops has one huge effec= t on wildlife that I don't see discussed much or at all: the complete o= bliteration of weedy species over massive areas, not seen much in NS but go= to Que and Ont where field after large field of GMO soybean, maize and can= nola are grown, and they are virtually dead except for the crops; even afte= r the crops are taken off they remain free of weedy species. Under traditio= nal management, weeds were set back by tillage to allow crop to get establi= shed, then a diversity of weedy species grow up in the understory, flowerin= g and providing food for pollinators, seeds for wildlife.. and after the cr= op is taken off, groundcover. No more so. The farmers like the GMO crops be= cause of the simplified management, but with selection of appropriate culti= vars, some mechanical management, reducing some types of tillage...weeds ca= n be controlled without eliminating them and our farm fields can be more su= pportive of wildlife.  </div>=20 <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1454588368905_3894" dir=3D"ltr">   </div>=20 <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1454588368905_4352"> Glyphosate is toxic to plants and bacteria, so has huge effects on the= microbiotia also.. </div>=20 <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1454588368905_4413">   </div>=20 <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1454588368905_4414" dir=3D"ltr"> Agreed, Nick: " <span style=3D"font-size: 16px;">As naturalists, impacts on natural wo= rld are our major responsibility."</span> </div>=20 <br/>=20 <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1454588368905_3917" class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"> <br/> <br/> </div>=20 <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1454588368905_3905" style=3D"display: block;" c= lass=3D"yahoo_quoted">=20 <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1454588368905_3904" style=3D"font-family: Helv= eticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; fon= t-size: 13px;">=20 <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1454588368905_3903" style=3D"font-family: Hel= veticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; fo= nt-size: 16px;">=20 <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1454588368905_3902" dir=3D"ltr"> <hr size=3D"1"/> <span style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;"><strong><span= style=3D"font-weight: bold;">From:</span></strong> Nicholas Hill <fern= hillns@gmail.com><br/> <strong><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</= span></strong> "naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" <naturens@chebucto.ns.= ca> <br/> <strong><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></stro= ng> Thursday, February 4, 2016 7:32 AM<br/> <strong><span style=3D"font-wei= ght: bold;">Subject:</span></strong> Re: [NatureNS] Public consultation re = use of pesticide Atrazine in Canada: a re-evaluation<br/> </span> </div>=20 <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1454588368905_3906" class=3D"y_msg_container= "> <br/>=20 <div id=3D"yiv5477229754">=20 <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1454588368905_3908">=20 <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1454588368905_3907" dir=3D"ltr"> David,=20 <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1454588368905_3909"> no confusion here. Listserve focus is on nature not human safet= y. Atrazine article deals with human safety concerns not biodiversity. </div>=20 <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1454588368905_3910"> If we want to take a stand on pesticides it would be for their = biodiversity implications of which there are tons. Roundup is an example bu= t there are many </div>=20 <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1454588368905_3911"> showing impacts of other pesticides on native bees and other po= llinators. </div>=20 <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1454588368905_3912"> Nick </div>=20 <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1454588368905_3913">   </div>=20 <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1454588368905_4240">