[NatureNS] Public consultation re use of pesticide... GMO crops

Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 12:33:06 +0000 (UTC)
From: David Patriquin <davidgpatriquin@yahoo.ca>
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Incororating resistance to Roundup & now a couple of other herbicides (beca=
use weeds also becoming resistant) in GMO crops has one huge effect on wild=
life that I don't see discussed much or at all: the complete obliteration o=
f weedy species over massive areas, not seen much in NS but go to Que and O=
nt where field after large field of GMO soybean, maize and cannola are grow=
n, and they are virtually dead except for the crops; even after the crops a=
re taken off they remain free of weedy species. Under traditional managemen=
t, weeds were set back by tillage to allow crop to get established, then a =
diversity of weedy species grow up in the understory, flowering and providi=
ng food for pollinators, seeds for wildlife.. and after the crop is taken o=
ff, groundcover. No more so. The farmers like the GMO crops because of the =
simplified management, but with selection of appropriate cultivars, some me=
chanical management, reducing some types of tillage...weeds can be controll=
ed without eliminating them and our farm fields can be more supportive of w=
ildlife.=C2=A0
Glyphosate is toxic to plants and bacteria, so has huge effects on the micr=
obiotia also..
Agreed, Nick: "As naturalists, impacts on natural world are our major respo=
nsibility."
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      From: Nicholas Hill <fernhillns@gmail.com>
 To: "naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>=20
 Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 7:32 AM
 Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Public consultation re use of pesticide Atrazine i=
n Canada: a re-evaluation
  =20
David,no confusion here. Listserve focus is on nature not human safety. Atr=
azine article deals with human safety concerns not biodiversity.If we want =
to take a stand on pesticides it would be for their biodiversity implicatio=
ns of which there are tons. Roundup is an example but there are manyshowing=
 impacts of other pesticides on native bees and other pollinators.Nick
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1890/04-1291/abstract
http://www.jstor.org/stable/40983228?seq=3D1#page_scan_tab_contents


On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:02 PM, David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com>=
 wrote:

Hi Nick,=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 The item dealt with=C2=A0Atrazine not Roundup. B=
est not to confuse matters.=C2=A0Dave W=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0----- Origi=
nal Message -----=20
 From: Nicholas Hill  To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca  Sent: Wednesday, Februar=
y 03, 2016 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Public consultation re use of pe=
sticide Atrazine in Canada: a re-evaluation=20
 Gyphosate (roundup) going under radar despite the lethal impacts of amphib=
ian larvae (ca 98% kill) from the surfactant used to get the pesticide acro=
ss the plant's cuticle.=20
Not supposed to be used near water courses but amphibians are in swampy woo=
ds.
As naturalists, impacts on natural world are our major responsibility. Phys=
icians (royal...Ontario. .forget the association)=C2=A0 did take a stand ag=
ainst recreational and household usage of pesticide on the basis of human h=
ealth risk. We can stand up for nature. Nick On Feb 3, 2016 5:59 PM, "N Rob=
inson" <nrobbyn@gmail.com> wrote:
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    Hello everyone,

=C2=A0A member of the Quebec branch of the Sierra Club just sent me an emai=
l regarding Canada's Pest Management Regulatory Agency doing a re-evaluatio=
n of the pesticide Atrazine (announced December 15 2015).

Some of you, more knowledgeable than I, might want to send them some feedba=
ck.

=C2=A0http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/cps-spc/pest/part/consultations/_rev2015-11/re=
v2015-11-eng.php
=20
Re-evaluation Note REV2015-11, Special Review of Atrazine: Proposed Decisio=
n for Consultation

Nancy

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=3D"ltr">Incororating resistance to Roundup &amp; now a couple of other her=
bicides (because weeds also becoming resistant) in GMO crops has one huge e=
ffect on wildlife that I don't see discussed much or at all: the complete o=
bliteration of weedy species over massive areas, not seen much in NS but go=
 to Que and Ont where field after large field of GMO soybean, maize and can=
nola are grown, and they are virtually dead except for the crops; even afte=
r the crops are taken off they remain free of weedy species. Under traditio=
nal management, weeds were set back by tillage to allow crop to get establi=
shed, then a diversity of weedy species grow up in the understory, flowerin=
g and providing food for pollinators, seeds for wildlife.. and after the cr=
op is taken off, groundcover. No more so. The farmers like the GMO crops be=
cause of the simplified management, but with selection of appropriate culti=
vars, some mechanical management, reducing some types of tillage...weeds ca=
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