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<div>woodl This message is in MIME format. --=_2uqnhte169zv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format="flowed" Content-Description: Plaintext Version of Message Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I disagree Nick, any animal can become a pest and cats and their irresponsible owners are exactly that. Myself, living in the countryside where cats are brought to barns and dropped off and many owners letting them roam free, I have seen many birds killed. Seen one cat jump up on a cloths line to kill a saw-whet owl. An impressive predator but way too many (all)=C2=A0at loose in the daytime and night. Dog= owners are not allowed to let their animals/predators roam free and neither should cat owners. No pet should be allowed to roam free to kill at will, period. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:24:43 -0400, Don MacNeill wrote: I agree Nick. Don Don MacNeill donmacneill@bellaliant.net On 24/01/2016 10:37 AM, Nicholas Hill wrote: Grayson and Calver (2004, Regulation of cat ownership to protect urban wildlife: a justification based on the precautionary approach. Royal Zoological Society NSW 169-178) =C2=A0found previously that Cat Density was not a predictor of passerine numbers but that distance to bushland and the density of urban housing were (both negative factors).=C2=A0 In the study cited above (regulation of cat ownership etc),= they conclude that "cat welfare is the key issue in a precautionary approach for protection which respects interests of cat owners". Cat welfare means keeping the beasts in at night and desexing them so that we do not have a feral cat problem. In the country here, people let cats breed in outbuildings and this leads to a desperate situation for these cats and for wildlife.=C2=A0Other authors warned that conclusions drawn in Britain over the impact of cats (million birds and small mammals killed) were drawn from data on one single village study in Felmersham. This author (BM Fitzgerald, 1990. is cat control needed to protect wildlife? Environmental Conservation 17: 168-169) questioned the extrapolation which we should in a rural area like NS where birdlife is spread widely over woodland and clearings =C2=A0 We have 3 desexed rescue cats that are in at night and well fed. There is a local impact on mouse, vole and shrew (no birds seen taken yet) but the population of these animals is greatly increased by the landuse round the house..as was observed in Felmersham (rodents and house sparrows there).=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Surely all of the following factors need to be considered before we relegate the cat to the indoors: =C2=A0 woodland edges..plant more trees brush piles..dont be tidy, a pile of woody debris is a refuge for small birds and voles sustainable agriculture..minimize use of pesticide sprays (see the " Declines in insectivorous birds associated w hi levels of neonicotinoid" in Nature 511: 341-3 (2014) and =C2=A0 http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/07/140709-birds-insects-pestic= ides-insecticides-neonicotinoids-silent-spring/) =C2=A0 Cats connect people to nature, to animals that still have independence and aloofness and are not wholly removed from primary adaptations. This makes them attractive in connecting and grounding us but it also is why I might be hammering away in their defense as they are still predators. The elderly are given robotic substitutes for pets which only reinforces our need of connection with the rest of the living world.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Nick =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 11:41 PM, Helene Van Doninck wrote: Nice to see the endorsement for keeping cats indoors!=C2=A0 Helene Helene Van Doninck DVM Cobequid Wildlife Rehabilitation Centre 2220 Irwin Lake Rd Brookfield NS Canada B0N1C0 902-893-0253 helene.birdvet@gmail.com www.cwrc.net Find us on Facebook=C2=A0and Twitter =C2=A0 On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 11:35 PM, N Robinson wrote: http://www.vancouversun.com/travel/city+vancouver+hopes+bird+strategy+will+= take+flight/10438095/story.html --=_2uqnhte169zv Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="=_3t1j1pm3nh23"; start="3t28khygo0m3@webcentremail.webcentre.ca" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This message is in MIME format. --=_3t1j1pm3nh23 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Description: HTML Version of Message Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: 3t28khygo0m3@webcentremail.webcentre.ca <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUTF-8" da= ta-hsystem=3D"true"></head> <body><style>p{margin: 0;padding: 0;} </style> <p style=3D"margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-size: 14pt; fon= t-family: times new roman, times; color: #000000; background-color: #ffffff;">I disag= ree Nick, any animal can become a pest and cats and their irresponsible owners = are exactly that. Myself, living in the countryside where cats are brought to b= arns and dropped off and many owners letting them roam free, I have seen many bi= rds killed. Seen one cat jump up on a cloths line to kill a saw-whet owl. An impressive predator but way too many (all)=C2=A0at loose in the daytime and= night. Dog owners are not allowed to let their animals/predators roam free and nei= ther should cat owners. No pet should be allowed to roam free to kill at will, period.</span></p> <p style=3D"margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">=C2=A0</p> <p style=3D"margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">=C2=A0</p> <p style=3D"margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">=C2=A0</p> <p style=3D"margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">=C2=A0</p> <p style=3D"margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br><br>On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:24:43 -0400, Don MacNeill <donmacneill@bellaliant.net> wrote:</p> <blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid #000000; padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;"> <div id=3D"html-message"><meta> <span style=3D"font-family: Calibri;">I agree Nick.<br><br>Don<br><br></span> <div class=3D"moz-signature">Don MacNeill <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbrevia= ted" href=3D"mailto:donmacneill@bellaliant.net" target=3D"">donmacneill@bel= laliant.net</a> </div> <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 24/01/2016 10:37 AM, Nicholas Hill wrote:= <