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On November 20, 2015 at 11:26 AM & This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01E1_01D125D4.CD1895D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Same is true in our daughter=E2=80=99s West Island (Montreal) = neighbourhood. From: chris kennedy=20 Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 7:06 AM To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 Subject: Re: [NatureNS] sparrows With all this talk of House Sparrows, I thought I'd mention something I = noticed this summer while in Toronto, then Philadelphia. In both of = those cities, I noticed the House Sparrows were more abundant than = starlings nearly everywhere I went. I could not hypothesize why this = would be... perhaps someone here knows?=20 -Chris Kennedy in Dartmouth On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 12:15 PM, rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca = <rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote: One thing not mentioned in the discussion Lance was the use of=20 road salt. It very effectively wiped out the Hungarian Partridge on = PEI. They went from plentiful to rare in a few years after salt came into = use. They would get gravel for grit along the road and pick up salt. The same may have happened to House Sparrows also - come to think of it rats - the Norway kind - have had an unlamented decline also.=20 All 3 species are of the invasive kind. The history of most invasive = species is=20 that they thrive for a time and then die down. Enjoy the November rain Paul=20 On November 20, 2015 at 11:26 AM "Laviolette, Lance" = <lance.laviolette@lmco.com> wrote:=20 Hi Peter, There are undoubtedly a number of factors contributing to the = decline of House Sparrows. However one factor which has been pointed out = by studies in the UK is a reduction in the abundance of insects for = nestlings. Whatever the cause in the decline in insect numbers = (pesticides, predators, climate change, etc.), the hypothesis goes that = less insects mean less protein for the young which results in less = healthy young fledging from the nest. These less fit birds don=E2=80=99t = survive very well in harsher, winter conditions.=20 The reason European Starlings are not declining may be attributed to = their diet also. From the Birds of North America accounts: House Sparrow - Insects and other arthropods during breeding season. European Starling - Extremely diverse diet that varies = geographically, with the age of individuals, and with season. Unusual = abundances of food items=E2=80=A6 garbage, livestock feed, etc. are also = exploited. The diverse diet of starlings gives them a big edge when trying to = survive and fledge healthy young in areas where no one food type is = sufficient by itself. As Paul mentioned, House Sparrows used to be seen closely associated = with cows and horses and they still are. However most of the large = animal operations have now been replaced with intensive agricultural = crop raising farms. I=E2=80=99d call the resulting corn and soya fields = deserts compared to the diversity rich pastures and = =E2=80=98wild=E2=80=99 hay fields that used to be common even 20 years = ago except deserts are much richer in diversity. House Sparrows have = gone from being abundant and wide-spread to being locally common over = that time. In my area in summer they are now focused almost exclusively = around the few horse stabling operations that we have. In winter they = show up at my feeders. All the best, Lance Lance Laviolette Glen Robertson, Ontario From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca = [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Hubcove@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 5:57 PM To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Subject: EXTERNAL: [NatureNS] sparrows In Halifax today and a friend was wondering why sparrows have = virtually disappeared in the city. While starlings are obviously = flourishing. Wondered whether anyone had the answer. Peter Stow=20 Hubbards =20 ------=_NextPart_000_01E1_01D125D4.CD1895D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><HEAD></HEAD> <BODY dir=3Dltr> <DIV dir=3Dltr> <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000"> <DIV>Same is true in our daughter=E2=80=99s West Island (Montreal) = neighbourhood.</DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: = "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; = DISPLAY: inline'> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt tahoma"> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5"> <DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A = title=3Dcjkennedy66@gmail.com=20 href=3D"mailto:cjkennedy66@gmail.com">chris kennedy</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 23, 2015 7:06 AM</DIV> <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A> = </DIV> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NatureNS] sparrows</DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: = "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; = DISPLAY: inline'> <DIV dir=3Dltr>With all this talk of House Sparrows, I thought I'd = mention=20 something I noticed this summer while in Toronto, then Philadelphia. In = both of=20 those cities, I noticed the House Sparrows were more abundant than = starlings=20 nearly everywhere I went. I could not hypothesize why this would be... = perhaps=20 someone here knows?=20 <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>-Chris Kennedy in Dartmouth</DIV></DIV> <DIV class=3Dgmail_extra> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 12:15 PM, <A=20 href=3D"mailto:rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca">rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca</A> = <SPAN=20 dir=3Dltr><<A href=3D"mailto:rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca"=20 target=3D_blank>rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc = 1px solid"><U></U> <DIV> <DIV><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">One thing not mentioned in the = discussion=20 Lance was the use of</SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">road salt. It very effectively = wiped out=20 the Hungarian Partridge on PEI.<BR></SPA