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y area in summer they are now focused almost exclusively ar --047d7bf10afe10fe1f05253337a4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable With all this talk of House Sparrows, I thought I'd mention something I noticed this summer while in Toronto, then Philadelphia. In both of those cities, I noticed the House Sparrows were more abundant than starlings nearly everywhere I went. I could not hypothesize why this would be... perhaps someone here knows? -Chris Kennedy in Dartmouth On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 12:15 PM, rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca < rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote: > One thing not mentioned in the discussion Lance was the use of > road salt. It very effectively wiped out the Hungarian Partridge on PEI. > They went from plentiful to rare in a few years after salt came into use. > They would get gravel for grit along the road and pick up salt. > The same may have happened to House Sparrows also - come to think of > it rats - the Norway kind - have had an unlamented decline also. > All 3 species are of the invasive kind. The history of most invasive > species is > that they thrive for a time and then die down. > Enjoy the November rain > Paul > > On November 20, 2015 at 11:26 AM "Laviolette, Lance" < > lance.laviolette@lmco.com> wrote: > > Hi Peter, > > > > There are undoubtedly a number of factors contributing to the decline of > House Sparrows. However one factor which has been pointed out by studies = in > the UK is a reduction in the abundance of insects for nestlings. Whatever > the cause in the decline in insect numbers (pesticides, predators, climat= e > change, etc.), the hypothesis goes that less insects mean less protein fo= r > the young which results in less healthy young fledging from the nest. The= se > less fit birds don=E2=80=99t survive very well in harsher, winter conditi= ons. > > > > The reason European Starlings are not declining may be attributed to thei= r > diet also. From the Birds of North America accounts: > > > > House Sparrow - Insects and other arthropods during breeding season. > > European Starling - Extremely diverse diet that varies geographically, > with the age of individuals, and with season. Unusual abundances of food > items=E2=80=A6 garbage, livestock feed, etc. are also exploited. > > > > The diverse diet of starlings gives them a big edge when trying to surviv= e > and fledge healthy young in areas where no one food type is sufficient by > itself. > > > > As Paul mentioned, House Sparrows used to be seen closely associated with > cows and horses and they still are. However most of the large animal > operations have now been replaced with intensive agricultural crop raisin= g > farms. I=E2=80=99d call the resulting corn and soya fields deserts compar= ed to the > diversity rich pastures and =E2=80=98wild=E2=80=99 hay fields that used t= o be common even > 20 years ago except deserts are much richer in diversity. House Sparrows > have gone from being abundant and wide-spread to being locally common ove= r > that time. In my area in summer they are now focused almost exclusively > around the few horse stabling operations that we have. In winter they sho= w > up at my feeders. > > > > All the best, > > > > Lance > > > > *Lance Laviolette* > > Glen Robertson, Ontario > > > > > > > > *From:* naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto: > naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] *On Behalf Of *Hubcove@aol.com > *Sent:* Thursday, November 19, 2015 5:57 PM > *To:* naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > *Subject:* EXTERNAL: [NatureNS] sparrows > > > > In Halifax today and a friend was wondering why sparrows have virtually > disappeared in the city. While starlings are obviously flourishing. > Wondered whether anyone had the answer. > > Peter Stow > > Hubbards > > > > --047d7bf10afe10fe1f05253337a4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">With all this talk of House Sparrows, I thought I'd me= ntion something I noticed this summer while in Toronto, then Philadelphia. = In both of those cities, I noticed the House Sparrows were more abundant th= an starlings nearly everywhere I went. I could not hypothesize why this wou= ld be... perhaps someone here knows?<div><br></div><div>-Chris Kennedy in D= artmouth</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot= e">On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 12:15 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:rita.paul@ns.sympati= co.ca">rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca</a> <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailt= o:rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca" target=3D"_blank">rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca</a= >></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 = 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u> =20 =20 =20 =20 <div> =20 <div> <span style=3D"font-size:12pt">One thing not mentioned in the discussion= Lance was the use of</span> </div>=20 <div> <span style=3D"font-size:12pt">road salt. It very effectively wiped out = the Hungarian Partridge on PEI.<br></span> </div>=20 <div> <span style=3D"font-size:12pt">They went from plentiful to rare in a few= years after salt came into use.<br></span> </div>=20 <div> <span style=3D"font-size:12pt">They would get gravel for grit along the = road and pick up salt.<br></span> </div>=20 <div> <span style=3D"font-size:12pt">The same may have happened to House Sparr= ows also - come to think of<br></span> </div>=20 <div> <span style=3D"font-size:12pt">it rats - the Norway kind - have had an u= nlamented decline also.</span> </div>=20 <div> <span style=3D"font-size:12pt">All 3 species are of the invasive kind. T= he history of most invasive species is</span> </div>=20 <div> <span style=3D"font-size:12pt">that they thrive for </span> <span style=3D"font-size:12pt">a time and then =C2=A0die down.<br></span= > </div>=20 <div> <span style=3D"font-size:12pt">Enjoy the November rain<br></span> </div>=20 <div> <span style=3D"font-size:12pt">Paul=C2=A0<br></span> </div>=20 <blockquote style=3D"padding-left:10px;margin-left:0px;border-left-color:= blue;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" type=3D"cite"> =20 =20 =20 On November 20, 2015 at 11:26 AM &