[NatureNS] Pied-billed Grebe behaviour

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From: Ian Woodman <calicoangus@bell.net>
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 21:17:43 -0400
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I'm sorry. I should have mentioned that I'm in Scarborough, Ontario.=20

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> On Jun 21, 2015, at 7:44 PM, "Dave&Jane Schlosberg" <dschlosb-g@ns.sympati=
co.ca> wrote:
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> Where do you live?
> =20
> From: Ian Woodman
> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 3:10 PM
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: [NatureNS] Pied-billed Grebe behaviour
> =20
> I=E2=80=99m hoping there=E2=80=99s an expert on Pied-billed Grebes on natu=
rens who can provide insight.
> =20
> I=E2=80=99ve been watching a pond for the past month & a half with nesting=
 Grebes. Last year they fledged two broods (or there were two families on th=
e pond successively).
> =20
> This year I saw two Grebes early in May for about a week and then only one=
 until this past Monday when she finally came out of the reeds with 5 little=
 ones tagging along. So now there were two adults to be seen but they were n=
ever together. Wednesday I took my usual daily de-stressing trip to the pond=
 to see them all. I was able to find one adult with (eventually) one baby (b=
ut no sign of the other 4) which she was dutifully feeding when the male fle=
w over beside them, paddled around next to them for a few seconds and then p=
roceeded to viciously attack the baby. The little guy managed to get away an=
d popped up 20 or 30 feet away and the male again went over and attacked the=
 baby. I only had my binns with me and no camera but the last image I saw wa=
s the male with the baby=E2=80=99s head firmly clamped in his mouth as he th=
rashed it about. Again, somehow  he managed to survive and much later I foun=
d him snuggling up to mom for a while before she started catching food for i=
t.
> =20
> All the while the female made no attempt to stop the attacks. She followed=
 them around but never intervened.
> =20
> When I returned to the pond Thursday there were no babies at all to be fou=
nd. Needless to say I am NOT happy with him!!!
> =20
> I know male lions will kill young to force the female to go back into estr=
us so that he can pass his genes along but I=E2=80=99ve never heard of this b=
ehaviour in birds.
> Does anyone have any kind of insight on this? Is this normal behaviour in G=
rebes? Do other birds practice filicide?
> =20
> Thanks
> Ian Woodman

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v><div><br>On Jun 21, 2015, at 7:44 PM, "Dave&amp;Jane Schlosberg" &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico.ca">dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico.ca</a>&gt; w=
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<div>Where do you live?</div>
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libri&quot;; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLA=
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<div style=3D"font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"calicoangus@bell.n=
et" href=3D"mailto:calicoangus@bell.net">Ian Woodman</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 19, 2015 3:10 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" href=3D"mailto:naturens=
@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> [NatureNS] Pied-billed Grebe behaviour</div></div></div=
>
<div>&nbsp;</div></div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Ca=
libri&quot;; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLA=
Y: inline">
<div>I=E2=80=99m hoping there=E2=80=99s an expert on Pied-billed Grebes on n=
aturens who can=20
provide insight.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I=E2=80=99ve been watching a pond for the past month &amp; a half with n=
esting=20
Grebes. Last year they fledged two broods (or there were two families on the=
=20
pond successively).</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>This year I saw two Grebes early in May for about a week and then only o=
ne=20
until this past Monday when she finally came out of the reeds with 5 little o=
nes=20
tagging along. So now there were two adults to be seen but they were never=20=

together. Wednesday I took my usual daily de-stressing trip to the pond to s=
ee=20
them all. I was able to find one adult with (eventually) one baby (but no si=
gn=20
of the other 4) which she was dutifully feeding when the male flew over besi=
de=20
them, paddled around next to them for a few seconds and then proceeded to=20=

viciously attack the baby. The little guy managed to get away and popped up 2=
0=20
or 30 feet away and the male again went over and attacked the baby. I only h=
ad=20
my binns with me and no camera but the last image I saw was the male with th=
e=20
baby=E2=80=99s head firmly clamped in his mouth as he thrashed it about. Aga=
in, somehow=20
he managed to survive and much later I found him snuggling up to mom for a w=
hile=20
before she started catching food for it.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>All the while the female made no attempt to stop the attacks. She follo=
wed=20
them around but never intervened.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>When I returned to the pond Thursday there were no babies at all to be=20=

found. Needless to say I am NOT happy with him!!!</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I know male lions will kill young to force the female to go back into=20=

estrus so that he can pass his genes along but I=E2=80=99ve never heard of t=
his=20
behaviour in birds.</div>
<div>Does anyone have any kind of insight on this? Is this normal behaviour i=
n=20
Grebes? Do other birds practice filicide?</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Thanks</div>
<div>Ian Woodman</div></div></div></div>
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