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Jm --_d38e3bd1-b9d3-4011-915d-aa0ab02e67a7_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The idea of excluding groups that lobby from being charitable organizatio= ns was originally to discourage them from lobbying for projects of private = interest or from which some one or some business could profit at the expens= e of the public. Of course=2C various governments have broadened this conc= ept to include any advocacy of positions they disagreed with=2C but prior t= o the current federal government=2C those advocating environmental protecti= on or health were considered to be lobbying in the public interest=2C and w= ere not threatened beyond the mention of this possibility if a government's= pet projects were threatened. Private interests often referred to us as '= special interest groups"=2C in contrast with public interest groups=2C and = shallow media coverage has often gone along with this=2C allowing proponent= s of environmentally unsound projects or policies (often the governments th= at must approve or deny them) to ensure that environmentalists are treated = as being unimportant in comparison to those investing money in such project= s. This has become more serious in recent years in Canada because of the w= eakening of our federal environmental impact assessment process in the name= of reducing "red tape". Ironically=2C the greatest tax breaks of all go to the donors to most parti= san of organizations - the political parties. This may help explain the ri= se in Green Parties in many parts of the world. Wayne Neily Tremont=2C N. S. Date: Fri=2C 17 Oct 2014 22:48:13 -0300 Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Revenue Canada and Non-Partisan Activities From: jim.edsall@bellaliant.net To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca How is this any different for telling churches they can't advocate for the = poor and social justice Jim Edsall Check out my new website at http://jimedsall.com=20 -------- Original message -------- From: David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com>=20 Date: 10-17-2014 9:02 PM (GMT-04:00)=20 To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Revenue Canada and Non-Partisan Activities=20 =20 Hi John & All=2C Oct 17=2C 2014 This is one of those topics that touches just about everything in one=20 way or another. But I will be brief. With respect to the two-way choice I would accept both as valid. I may be repeating myself but=2C on the subject of choice: freedom of=20 thought and expression without fear of retaliation=2C provided it does not= =20 infringe on similar rights of others=2C has been throughout the history of= =20 humanity a very rare condition. Our current immense prosperity is in large= =20 measure a consequence of the almost unique conditions that gradually=20 developed over the last five centuries in the Western world. On the other hand=2C status as a registered charity for tax purposes is= a=20 small bone that is offered to restrain freedom of choice. It seems obvious= =20 that a Naturalist Organization would advocate on behalf of the natural worl= d=20 and perhaps the best way to maintain that freedom would be to de-register=20 the organization=3B if necessary by a name change. Yt=2C Dave Webster=2C Kentville ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "John and Nhung" <nhungjohn@eastlink.ca> To: <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> Sent: Friday=2C October 17=2C 2014 12:18 PM Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Revenue Canada and Non-Partisan Activities > Either we have some well-intentioned=2C bright=2C but overly na=EFve > decision-makers who need more exposure to reality before they assume the > responsibilities they carry=2C or we have a pathological aversion to > inconvenient truths. > > -----Original Message----- > From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca= ] > On Behalf Of Burkhard Plache > Sent: October-17-14 11:26 AM > To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > Subject: [NatureNS] Revenue Canada and Non-Partisan Activities > > Please read the following piece by CBC about an Ontario Field Naturalist > Club. > Revenue Canada considers their activities partisan ant threatens to > reconsider their tax exempt status. > > http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/revenue-canada-targets-birdwatchers-for-p= oli > tical-activity-1.2799546 > > Not cheered=2C > Burkhard > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4040/8390 - Release Date: 10/14/14 >=20 = --_d38e3bd1-b9d3-4011-915d-aa0ab02e67a7_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <style><!-- .hmmessage P { margin:0px=3B padding:0px } body.hmmessage { font-size: 12pt=3B font-family:Calibri } --></style></head> <body class=3D'hmmessage'><div dir=3D'ltr'> =3B =3BThe idea of excl= uding groups that lobby from being charitable organizations was originally = to discourage them from lobbying for projects of private interest or from w= hich some one or some business could profit at the expense of the public.&n= bsp=3B =3BOf course=2C various governments have broadened this concept = to include any advocacy of positions they disagreed with=2C but prior to th= e current federal government=2C those advocating environmental protection o= r health were considered to be lobbying in the public interest=2C and were = not threatened beyond the mention of this possibility if a government'= =3Bs pet projects were threatened. =3B =3BPrivate interests often r= eferred to us as '=3Bspecial interest groups"=3B=2C in contrast with= public interest groups=2C and shallow media coverage has often gone along = with this=2C allowing proponents of environmentally unsound projects or pol= icies (often the governments that must approve or deny them) to ensure that= environmentalists are treated as being unimportant in comparison to those = investing money in such projects. =3B =3BThis has become more serio= us in recent years in Canada because of the weakening of our federal enviro= nmental impact assessment process in the name of reducing "=3Bred tape&= quot=3B.<br><br>Ironically=2C the greatest tax breaks of all go to the dono= rs to most partisan of organizations - the political parties. =3B = =3BThis may help explain the rise in Green Parties in many parts of the wor= ld.<br><br>Wayne Neily<br>Tremont=2C N. S.<br><br><hr>Date:=3B Fri=2C 17= Oct 2014 22:=3B48:=3B13 -0300<br>Subject:=3B Re:=3B [NatureNS]= Revenue Canada and Non-Partisan Activities<br>From:=3B jim.edsall@bella= liant.net<br>To:=3B naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<br><br><div&