[NatureNS] Re: beaver with swollen red eyelids

From: David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com>
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Hi Darrell & All,                                Nov 12, 2013
    This is a long shot but are you aware of any forestry operations =
upstream in the watershed that involve conifers ? Especially chipping or =
debarking but perhaps even Christmas tree harvesting or studwood =
cutting. Or recent swarms of ants upstream ? (very unlikely this late in =
the year)

    Twenty plus years ago, when I was starting to carve 'practical' =
(some quite impractical) objects I found a huge Spruce burl by the =
roadside and spent the better part of an evening using a chainsaw, =
without eye protection, to cut off slabs of rot infested or ant infested =
and highly resinous exterior to reduce dimensions to a more readily =
loaded ~5' diameter of mostly useful wood.=20

    Some 6 hours later I woke with upper and lower lids of both eyes so =
puffed up I could barely see. The nurse and Dr who examined me in =
Emergency said it was just some kind of eye irritation (gave me eye =
drops ?) and advised rest for a day or so. It may have been formic acid =
from ants, resin powder or fungal spores/hyphae but I have always =
suspected resin because parts of that burl were loaded.

yt, Dave Webster, Kentville
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  Subject: [NatureNS] Re: beaver with swollen red eyelids




  Apon catching a beaver my father and I noticed red swollen eyelids on =
it. Dad said in his 40 years of trapping he has never seen such a thing =
and neither have I.



  In searching the web I couldn't find any information on red eyes in =
beaver, just pets. Possibly conjunctiva. Both eye lids were swollen and =
red. The eyeballs looked fine.



  Maybe this is something new,=20



  All the best,

  Darrell









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forestry=20
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Especially=20
chipping or debarking but perhaps even Christmas tree harvesting or =
studwood=20
cutting. Or recent swarms of ants upstream ? (very unlikely this late in =
the=20
year)</DIV>
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<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Twenty plus years ago, when I was starting to =
carve=20
'practical' (some quite impractical) objects I found a huge Spruce burl =
by the=20
roadside and spent the better part of an evening using a chainsaw, =
without eye=20
protection,&nbsp;to cut off slabs of rot infested or ant infested and =
highly=20
resinous exterior&nbsp;to reduce dimensions to a more readily =
loaded&nbsp;~5'=20
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<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Some&nbsp;6 hours later I woke with upper and =
lower lids=20
of both eyes so puffed up I could barely see. The nurse and Dr who =
examined me=20
in Emergency said it was just some kind of eye irritation (gave me eye =
drops ?)=20
and advised rest for a day or so. It may have been formic acid from =
ants, resin=20
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<DIV>yt, Dave Webster, Kentville</DIV>
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  <P>Apon catching a beaver my father and I noticed red swollen eyelids =
on it.=20
  Dad said in his 40 years of trapping he has never seen such a thing =
and=20
  neither have I.</P>
  <P>&nbsp;</P>
  <P>In searching the web I couldn't find any information&nbsp;on red =
eyes in=20
  beaver, just pets. Possibly conjunctiva. Both eye lids were swollen =
and red.=20
  The eyeballs looked fine.</P>
  <P>&nbsp;</P>
  <P>Maybe this is something new, </P>
  <P>&nbsp;</P>
  <P>All the best,</P>
  <P>Darrell</P>
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