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Index of Subjects ---1053708885-1230297069-1373585264=:68629 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That would make sense Fritz. We did not have barn swallows until a year or = two after we started raising alpacas. Despite the barn being of 100 year ol= d construction.=0A=0ARob=0A=0A=0A=A0=0ATo free oneself of knowledge is to d= ie, and thus one lives. - Krishnamurti=0A=0A=0A____________________________= ____=0A From: Fritz McEvoy <fritzmcevoy@hotmail.com>=0ATo: NS NATURE <natur= ens@chebucto.ns.ca> =0ASent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 3:18:42 PM=0ASubject: = RE: [NatureNS] Barn Swallows and Chimney Swifts=0A =0A=0A=0A =0AHi Rob and = All,=A0=0A=A0 =A0 I stand to be corrected here, but my understanding is tha= t it was not only the old barns that were required but that farming; partic= ularly the keeping of livestock; was also essential. The mud and manure wer= e used to build the nests and the insects the animals attracted were a main= food source. =A0We lost our local Barn Swallows shortly after the owners o= f the barns the swallows used for nests, which are still here BTW, got rid = of the last of their cows. All the best.=0A=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Fritz McEvoy=0A=A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= Sunrise Valley, CB (near Dingwall)=0A=A0 =A0 =A0=0A=0A=0A=0A______________= __________________=0ADate: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 09:25:49 -0700=0AFrom: rrtwoods= @yahoo.com=0ASubject: [NatureNS] Barn Swallows and Chimney Swifts=0ATo: nat= urens@chebucto.ns.ca=0A=0A=0ANot to take away from the rapid decline that t= hese species and others are experiencing, I have wondered did these two spe= cies first benefit from mankind as the are both strongly associated with ma= n made objects. Were their numbers from the peaks 30-40 years ago actually = inflated due to man made structures being available. Prior to the building = of the large wooden barns across north america what would have been the pop= ulation of Barn Swallows. Suitable nesting habitat would have been more lim= ited and under much more competition or predation. =0A=A0=0ATodays modern b= arns are made of metal which are almost impossible to attach nest to and ar= e much more BIO secure than the wooden barns of our forefathers.=A0=A0The o= ld brick chimneys that=A0once abandoned, provided excellent habitat for the= swifts are now falling in disrepair or are destroyed in site clean up. Bot= h of these structures did not exist before the industrial age and are becom= ing limited now thus maybe populations of these species are actually return= ing to more normal levels.=0A=A0=0AOwner of a wooden barn with 6 barn swall= ow nests=0A=A0=0ARob Woods=0AGeorgefield NS ---1053708885-1230297069-1373585264=:68629 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti= mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div id=3D"yiv9281720= 309"><div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255= , 255); font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size= : 12pt;"><div id=3D"yiv9281720309yui_3_7_2_36_1373584705320_54"><span id=3D= "yiv9281720309yui_3_7_2_36_1373584705320_76">That would make sense Fritz. W= e did not have barn swallows until a year or two after we started raising a= lpacas. Despite the barn being of 100 year old construction.</span></div><d= iv id=3D"yiv9281720309yui_3_7_2_36_1373584705320_54" style=3D"color: rgb(0,= 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times,= serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span id=3D"yiv= 9281720309yui_3_7_2_36_1373584705320_90"><br id=3D"yiv9281720309yui_3_7_2_3= 6_1373584705320_96"></span></div><div id=3D"yiv9281720309yui_3_7_2_36_13735= 84705320_54" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new rom= an', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: n= ormal;"><span id=3D"yiv9281720309yui_3_7_2_36_1373584705320_93">Rob</span><= /div><div id=3D"yiv9281720309yui_3_7_2_36_1373584705320_54" style=3D"color:= rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york',= times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span id= =3D"yiv9281720309yui_3_7_2_36_1373584705320_79"><br id=3D"yiv9281720309yui_= 3_7_2_36_1373584705320_87"></span></div><div id=3D"yiv9281720309yui_3_7_2_3= 6_1373584705320_54" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-fam= ily: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transpa= rent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div id=3D"yiv9281720309yui_3_7_2_36_1= 373584705320_56"></div><div id=3D"yiv9281720309yui_3_7_2_36_1373584705320_5= 8"> </div><div>To free oneself of knowledge is to die, and thus one li= ves. - Krishnamurti<br id=3D"yiv9281720309yui_3_7_2_36_1373584705320_61"></div> = <div style=3D"font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; fon= t-size: 12pt;" id=3D"yiv9281720309yui_3_7_2_36_1373584705320_64" class=3D"y= iv9281720309yui_3_7_2_36_1373584705320_63"> <div style=3D"font-family: 'tim= es new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"yiv9281= 720309yui_3_7_2_36_1373584705320_66"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <hr size=3D"1"> <f= ont size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</= span></b> Fritz McEvoy <fritzmcevoy@hotmail.com><br> <b><span style= =3D"font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> NS NATURE <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca= > <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, J= uly 11, 2013 3:18:42 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">Subject:</= span></b> RE: [NatureNS] Barn Swallows and Chimney Swifts<br> </font> </div= > <div class=3D"yiv9281720309y_msg_container"><br><div id=3D"yiv9281720309"= >=0A=0A<style><!--=0A#yiv9281720309 .yiv9281720309hmmessage P=0A{=0Amargin= :0px;padding:0px;}=0A#yiv9281720309 body.yiv9281720309hmmessage=0A{=0Afont= -size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;}=0A--></style>=0A<div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi R= ob and All, <div> I stand to be corrected here, but my un= derstanding is that it was not only the old barns that were required but th= at farming; particularly the keeping of livestock; was also essential. The = mud and manure were used to build the nests and the insects