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Index of Subjects This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_2CF0_01CE4459.984CEF40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Angela, Gary & All, What tribulations ? My first attempt did not go well because I had to = learn how to do it effectively. Don't take my word for any of this. Try = it yourself.=20 =20 Mark >100 blossoms in each of several years and see how many set = and whether those that do set are unusually vigorous. Note how many = plants got nipped off by deer as they emerged and how many blossoms get = nipped high later. Hand-pollinate five and see how many of these set. The Sand County Almanac: "We grieve only for what we know." bears on = the 'look but don't touch' school of thought. And on the flip side, = conservation should be based on sound information, not on dogmatic = prejudice-based assertions such as "it is unethical" to pick Common = Lady's Slipper flowers. =20 Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville ----- Original Message -----=20 From: AngelaJoudrey=20 To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Lady Slippers Thanks for your reply Dave. I do remember reading your trials and = tribulations regarding hand pollination of the lady slippers.=20 Angela On 04/28/13, David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com> wrote: Hi Angela & All, Apr 28, 2013 It was (and perhaps still is) illegal to pick Common = Lady's Slipper (Cypripedium acaule) in parts of New England but the = prohibition has no sound biological basis.=20 Under our conditions and in typical years only the most = vigorous blossoms (roughly 1% of total blooms) will set fruit by natural = pollination by Bees. But if hand pollinated at the right time (as I have = described on NatureNS) nearly 100% of hand pollinated flowers will set = fruit.=20 So one should avoid picking flowers that have unusually = long scapes that spring from unusually large leaves and also avoid = picking flowers near walkways. But if picking a few CLS flowers can = trigger or reinforce someone's interest in and respect for the natural = world then it is flowers well spent. The look but don't touch attitude = will literally pave the road to hell. Hand pollination briefly is as follows-- 1) examine a = flower and identify the two small pollen bearing structures and the = single stigmatic surface. 2) take a spent plastic ink tube from a = ball-point pen (about 2.5 mm diam) to act as a transfer tool. 3) check a = flower for developmental stage. If ready for hand pollination then a = waxy pollen deposit will stick to the plastic when the tube side near = the end is rolled against a pollen structure. 4) this waxy deposit can = then be transferred to a stigmatic surface by rolling the tube as = before. I take pollen from one blossom and transfer it to a second (as a = precaution) but suspect this is unnecessary because the initial pollen = source plant also frequently sets.5) If few plants are ready then wait a = few days and try again. The scape persists overwinter so pollinated = plants can be marked with flagging tape, tied low on the scape, with = year and plant number printed by marking pen. Apart from the 10 % or so that deer munch, and who can say = whether or not they would have set, all of my hand-pollinated blossoms = have set fruit. Yt, Dave Webster Kentville ----- Original Message -----=20 From: AngelaJoudrey=20 To: naturens=20 Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 1:12 PM Subject: [NatureNS] Lady Slippers Someone recently told me it is illegal to pick them? Angela in Windsor -- "The significant problems of our time cannot be solved by = the same level of thinking that created them." Albert Einstein "When one tugs at a single thing in nature, he finds it = attached to the rest of the world." John Muir=20 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3272 / Virus Database: 3162/6279 - Release = Date: 04/28/13 =20 -- "The significant problems of our time cannot be solved by the same = level of thinking that created them." Albert Einstein "When one tugs at a single thing in nature, he finds it attached to = the rest of the world." John Muir=20 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3272 / Virus Database: 3162/6280 - Release Date: = 04/28/13 ------=_NextPart_000_2CF0_01CE4459.984CEF40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META name=3DGENERATOR content=3D"MSHTML 8.00.6001.19412"></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hi Angela, Gary & All,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>What tribulations ? My first attempt did not go = well=20 because I had to learn how to do it effectively. Don't take my word for = any of=20 this. Try it yourself. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> Mark >100 blossoms in each of = several=20 years and see how many set and whether those that do set are=20 unusually vigorous. Note how many plants got nipped off by deer as they = emerged=20 and how many blossoms get nipped high later. Hand-pollinate five = and see=20 how many of these set.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> The Sand County Almanac: "We = grieve only=20 for what we know." bears on the 'look but don't touch' school of = thought.=20 And on the flip side, conservation should be based on sound information, = not=20 on dogmatic prejudice-based assertions such as "it is unethical" to = pick=20 Common Lady's Slipper flowers.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; = PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 dir=3Dltr> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Daljoudrey@eastlink.ca=20 href=3D"mailto:aljoudrey@eastlink.ca">AngelaJoudrey</