[NatureNS] Coyote and deer carcass.

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Thank you Paul for your response. Of course, we don't want anyone falling through the ice, especially our 1st responders or the wildlife experts from DNR. Thanks too, for the clarification about using noise makers (not, obviously) to scare away any coyotes from the carcass. Nature will take its proper course, then, as it should be. 
Cheers to all!

Gayle MacLean
Dartmouth

--- Paul MacDonald <paulrita2001@yahoo.com> wrote: 
> I can assure you Gayle DNR never planned to use fireworks or any other noise makers to scare the coyotes - and they weren't planning to goout on the ice to get the carcass either. The day for Polar Dips is past!Today its geese frozen in a pond somewhere - probably make the news tonight.Have a good 2013 -  looking forward to your postsPaul
> 
> --- On Fri, 1/4/13, duartess@ns.sympatico.ca <duartess@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
> 
> From: duartess@ns.sympatico.ca <duartess@ns.sympatico.ca>
> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Coyote and deer carcass.
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> Cc: "Rick Whitman" <dendroica.caerulescens@gmail.com>
> Received: Friday, January 4, 2013, 5:05 AM
> 
> Yes, I would also like to know DNR's rational for using fireworks to scare off the coyotes from the carcass. Unless they are going to go out & physically remove it, it still will remain there! This winter seems to be a lot colder than last winter & I doubt that the ice will melt anytime soon. 
> Perhaps they think that people who do live out there will be disturbed to actually KNOW that there really ARE coyotes out in 'them-thar' woods & yes, they have to kill animals & eat them to survive.
> Even my husband said pretty much that. 'Probably, they don't want to scare folks with kids' living out in that area.'
> AND birds (scavengers) are much less threatening to see than the dreaded coyote, after all.
> Just my opinion, of course.
> 
> Gayle MacLean
> Dartmouth
> 
> ---- Rick Whitman <dendroica.caerulescens@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > It's quite likely that the coyote(s) killed the deer out on the ice in
> > the first place. The carcass will be clean within a few days. If the
> > coyotes can be kept off this carcass, they will need to kill another
> > deer back in the woods. What a strange species we are. We don't want
> > to know that coyotes kill deer. We don't want to know that coyotes are
> > pretty much everywhere, except possibly downtown Halifax.
> > 
> > And then we head off to the movies to watch orks, hobbits, gangstas,
> > or an asteroid, kill off hundreds of hobbits, orks, humans whatever,
> > in the most violent ways conceivable. Very rational, I don't think so.
> > 
> > Rick W.
> > 
> > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:33 PM, garymurray <garymurray@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > > Oops I did it too!
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent from Samsung Mobile
> > >
> > > garymurray <garymurray@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > > Hi, I wonder what if any harm it would do to let nature take it's course, as
> > > we all know it is impossible to control or eradicate them.
> > > Parks Canada  used to use "bangers", kind of like a firecracker to scare
> > > away the Elk when I lived in Jasper, but you gotta wonder how it would work
> > > on wily coyotes.
> > >
> > > A neighbour's friend is a wildlife tech, so will ask him next time I see
> > > him. He was coincidentally on the news last night about coyotes in Laurie
> > > park.
> > >
> > > Yeah, the red, and size really stood out to me
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > Gary.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent from Samsung Mobile
> > >
> > > Angela <aljoudrey@eastlink.ca> wrote:
> > > Part 2: I forgot to mention that he too noticed how red the coyote seemed.
> > >
> > > Angela in Windsor
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On 2013-01-03, at 8:37 PM, Angela <aljoudrey@eastlink.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi there. My dad called to tell me about this. He called DNR who said he
> > >> wasn't the first one to call. They weren't going to send anyone out bc the
> > >> ice could be unsafe and they weren't going to call the fire dept as that us
> > >> not their job. They did say they were going to send a tech out there with
> > >> firecrackers- I kid you not- and try to scare the coyote off. However the
> > >> deer carcass will still be there.
> > >>
> > >> Angela in Windsor
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
> > >> On 2013-01-03, at 8:00 PM, garymurray@ns.sympatico.ca wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi all,
> > >>>
> > >>> Whilst driving by Barrett Lake on the Beaverbank Road today, there was a
> > >>> deer carcass in the middle of the lake being picked at by 3 Ravens. Hovering
> > >>> a few hundred metres away was a large Reddish Coyote which was reluctant to
> > >>> go near it with myself and another vehicle parked watching it. It eventually
> > >>> left, I assume it would return after things quieted down or after dark
> > >>> whichever came first.
> > >>>
> > >>> Couldn't stick around due to an appointment, but will try to swing by
> > >>> tomorrow to see if there is any activity around the carcass. It looked like
> > >>> a whole animal, not just the pelt etc.. that a hunter would be getting rid
> > >>> of.
> > >>> The red colour and large size made me wonder about the Red Wolf species
> > >>> in Algonquin Park and if this was an off shoot of it or something. Pretty
> > >>> cool to see in any event.
> > >>>
> > >>> Lots of birds around the feeders today, mainly Redpolls, Goldfinches and
> > >>> Pine Siskins. Plus Red and White Breasted Nuthatches, B.C. Chickadees,
> > >>> Downy, Hairy Woodpeckers, 17 Mourning Doves, though it looks like the
> > >>> resident ducks seem to have flown the coop with the lake being mostly frozen
> > >>> over now.
> > >>>
> > >>> Cheers,
> > >>> Gary Murray
> > >>> Tucker Lake,
> > >>> Beaverbank NS

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