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{ms --Apple-Mail-413--852483916 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Hi John, On 2012-12-12, at 10:26 PM, John and Nhung wrote: > Went through your article Chris, and you have concisely covered the = reservations on salmonid cage culture as well as anyone I=92ve read. =20 Thanks, very kind of you to say so. > By the way, most of my working life was/ has been spent on aquaculture = research development in poorer societies, with a little initial work on = mollusc culture in this corner of the world. I got into it because (a)I = saw it as a way to reduce fishing pressure on wild stocks, and (b) it = has potential to feed hungry people. > =20 > So, a few sidebars from me: > =20 > n The food chain bit in your article is why I was never interested in = salmonid culture of any type. They are all carnivorous. Ya gotta catch = fish to feed fish, and that doesn=92t make environmental sense to me. = We should be eating those trash fish, not salmon. However, that isn=92t = gonna change unless we get a lot poorer.=20 > n The corollary to this is that salmon are expensive to raise, so = will never be an important food for poor people. > n Personally, the presence of a couple of cages in an embayment = doesn=92t bother me, but the apparent ease with which such an operation = can expand many-fold and fast scares the hell out of me. See below. > n Re. genetic contamination: (a) I always thought the idea of raising = Atlantic salmon on the west coast was a terrible one, because of the = potential for escape, reproduction, and competition with native species. = (b) I have heard the alarms raised about escapes of Atlantic salmon on = this coast and the potential to contaminate existing stocks, and am more = ambivalent here. Every species (and every population) evolves, through = natural selection on a genetically diverse population. If the genes of = escapees get introduced into a wild Atlantic Salmon stock, I kind of = suspect natural selection will operate, as usual. I have listened to = the arguments, but am still not very alarmed. I may be missing = something, but personally find there are plenty of more convincing = arguments to raise cautions against large-scale salmonid cage culture. It's difficult to say unless one conducts some research to determine how = biologically and behaviourally different farmed salmon are from wild = populations. Perhaps not that much, in which case it may not be that = significant an issue.=20 The bigger concern, as I point out in this article, is if trans-genic = fish with genes from chinook salmon and ocean pout are released into the = wild, and then these genes end up infecting natural populations. Do we = really want such a thing to happen? It's fine to have fish that grow = faster, are more disease resistant and more cold tolerant, but what if = this genetic modification ends up producing some other undesirable = effects? Once introduced into wild populations there may then be no way = back. > n To me, the scariest part of your article was the last bit, re. = trade agreements. I don=92t know the details, but don=92t governments = have a fundamental duty to protect our long-term interests? One would think/hope so.=20 Corporations have a hard time restraining themselves. The consequence is = to incessantly grow the business, make it larger, make it more = profitable, reduce inefficiencies. This results in bigger farms, more = fish, faster growing times. Good is never enough, it must be better. = Shareholders are always deemed to want profit to increase. Such unending = growth is the ideology of cancer. We need governments with intestinal = fortitude that will strictly regulate the conduct of corporations. = Otherwise, we are on a crash course with biological and ecological = reality. Cheers! Chris Christopher Majka - writer, Rabble.ca Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada Email: c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/christophermajka The significant problems of our time cannot be solved by the same level = of thinking that created them. - Albert Einstein --Apple-Mail-413--852483916 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 <html><head><base href=3D"x-msg://559/"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: = break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: = after-white-space; ">Hi John,<div><br><div><div>On 2012-12-12, at 10:26 = PM, John and Nhung wrote:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span = class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); = font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; ">Went through your = article Chris, and you have concisely covered the reservations on = salmonid cage culture as well as anyone I=92ve read. = </span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks, very kind of you = to say so.</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span = class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; = font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; = letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: = -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: = 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: = auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div lang=3D"EN-CA" link=3D"blue" = vlink=3D"purple"><div class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: = WordSection1; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; = margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: = 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: = Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">By the way, most of my = working life was/ has been spent on aquaculture research development in = poorer societies, with a little initial work on mollusc culture in this = corner of the world. I got into it because (a)I saw it as a way to = reduce fishing pressure on wild stocks, and (b) it has potential to feed = hungry people.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; = margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: = 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: = 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); = "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; = margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: = 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', ser