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style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-ST ---2114655128-781594317-1348707769=:76323 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Dave=0ADid someone say oak was used for spars?=0ANever saw that.=0AHave = a nice day=0APaul=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: David &= Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com>=0ATo: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca =0ASent:= Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:30:27 PM=0ASubject: Re: [NatureNS] old oak= =0A =0A=0A =0AHi Paul & All,=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =0A=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0= =A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 Sept =0A26, 2012=0A=A0=A0=A0 Someone who knows about the d= ays of iron =0Amen & wooden ships may know better but I think the spars (no= t masts) were =0Ausually made of Spruce. Oak was=A0for ribs, brackets & pla= nking but not =0Afor superstructure.=0A=A0=A0=A0 And on the subject of slow= growing trees =0Asome good examples can be found on the barrens between th= e Clyburn River=A0in =0ACape Breton and Two-Island Lake. I camped there a f= ew times, in a =0Aprevious=A0life,=A0and one dead hip-high spruce tree abou= t 100 years old =0Aand 10 mm diameter would boil a pot of water for oxo or = tea; almost solid =0Awood.=0A=A0=A0=A0 Getting back to Oak, it may sound = =0Acounter-intuitive, but wood from a rapidly growing Oak (probably all tre= es) is =0Astronger than wood from a slow growing tree. I suspect this is be= cause wood from =0Aa tree with wider rings is more supple, i.e. can bend wi= thout breaking whereas =0Awood with mostly thick-walled cells is more britt= le.=0AYt, Dave Webster, Kentville=0A----- Original Message ----- =0A>From: = Paul MacDonald =0A>To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca =0A>Sent: Tuesday, Septembe= r 25, 2012 3:37 PM=0A>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] old oak=0A>=0A>=0A>You start= ed a very interesting discussion Heather=0A>Nothing anyone said rules out = a 400 year old oak. Documented=A0=0A>trees 300 plus leave quite a bit of v= ariation possible in the=0A>dying age. The half life will be much less of = course but ones=0A>at the end of the scale might easily get over the 400.= =0A>Oak in the 1800 - 1875 period of wooden ships were sought=0A>wherever = they could be found. The beautiful fall foliage made it=0A>hard for them = to hide! And the lads were good at handling big logs.=0A>They didn't get s= pars at the building supply store.=0A>They removed most of the large oak a= t that period especially=A0=0A>where it was easy to do - PEI for example, = no stones, hills not too steep=A0=0A>and lots of horses and a good demand= .=A0=0A>I would be susprised if you could find one there over 200 years o= ld.=A0=0A>=0A>And to see some of the things=A0I see in the deep woods make= me=0A>believe there wasn't much of NS left=A0to chance for a big tree. = Spruce or oak!=0A>Have a nice fall=0A>=0A>Paul=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>_____= ___________________________=0A> From: Heather Drope <heather.drope@ns.symp= atico.ca>=0A>To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca =0A>Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2= 012 2:15:41 PM=0A>Subject: [NatureNS] old oak=0A>=0A>=0A>As we speak, it = could be being up rooted. I had not realized how big around this tree was = before the land was sold or I would have documented the size for the Big T= ree listing on NatureNS web site. Too late now.. I am not going to trespas= s on to this land. =0A>Heather.. =0A>Heather Drope=0A>Nova Scotia Wild Fl= ora Society=0A>www.nswildflora.ca=0A>902-440-5032=0A>=0A>=0A>We do not see= nature with our eyes, =0A>but with our understandings and our hearts. =0A= >=A0W. Hazlett=0A>=0A> =0A>No virus found in this message.=0A>Checked by = AVG - www.avg.com=0A>Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus =0A Database: 2441/5289 = - Release Date: 09/24/12 ---2114655128-781594317-1348707769=:76323 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti= mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Hi Dave</s= pan></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: = 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent;= font-style: normal; "><span>Did someone say oak was used for spars?</span>= </div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'tim= es new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; fon= t-style: normal; "><span>Never saw that.</span></div><div style=3D"color: r= gb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', t= imes, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span>Hav= e a nice day</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px= ; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-colo= r: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span>Paul</span></div><div><br></div= >=20 <div style=3D"font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; fo= nt-size: 12pt; "> <div style=3D"font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york',= times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font size=3D"2" face= =3D"Arial"> <hr size=3D"1"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</sp= an></b> David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com><br> <b><span = style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> naturens@chebucto.ns.ca <br> <b= ><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, September 2= 6, 2012 9:30:27 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span= ></b> Re: [NatureNS] old oak<br> </font> </div> <br><meta http-equiv=3D"x-d= ns-prefetch-control" content=3D"off"><div id=3D"yiv1443534688">=0A<title></= title>=0A =0A =0A<style></style>=0A=0A<div>=0A<div><font size=3D"2">Hi Paul= & All, =0A &nbs= p; Sept =0A26, 2012</font= ></div>=0A<div><font size=3D"2"> Someone who knows about = the days of iron =0Amen & wooden ships may know better but I think the = spars (not masts) were