[NatureNS] old oak

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Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 18:02:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul MacDonald <paulrita2001@yahoo.com>
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Hi Dave=0ADid someone say oak was used for spars?=0ANever saw that.=0AHave =
a nice day=0APaul=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: David &=
 Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com>=0ATo: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca =0ASent:=
 Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:30:27 PM=0ASubject: Re: [NatureNS] old oak=
=0A =0A=0A  =0AHi Paul & All,=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =0A=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=
=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 Sept =0A26, 2012=0A=A0=A0=A0 Someone who knows about the d=
ays of iron =0Amen & wooden ships may know better but I think the spars (no=
t masts) were =0Ausually made of Spruce. Oak was=A0for ribs, brackets & pla=
nking but not =0Afor superstructure.=0A=A0=A0=A0 And on the subject of slow=
 growing trees =0Asome good examples can be found on the barrens between th=
e Clyburn River=A0in =0ACape Breton and Two-Island Lake. I camped there a f=
ew times, in a =0Aprevious=A0life,=A0and one dead hip-high spruce tree abou=
t 100 years old =0Aand 10 mm diameter would boil a pot of water for oxo or =
tea; almost solid =0Awood.=0A=A0=A0=A0 Getting back to Oak, it may sound =
=0Acounter-intuitive, but wood from a rapidly growing Oak (probably all tre=
es) is =0Astronger than wood from a slow growing tree. I suspect this is be=
cause wood from =0Aa tree with wider rings is more supple, i.e. can bend wi=
thout breaking whereas =0Awood with mostly thick-walled cells is more britt=
le.=0AYt, Dave Webster, Kentville=0A----- Original Message ----- =0A>From: =
Paul  MacDonald =0A>To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca =0A>Sent: Tuesday, Septembe=
r 25, 2012 3:37  PM=0A>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] old oak=0A>=0A>=0A>You start=
ed a very interesting discussion Heather=0A>Nothing  anyone said rules out =
a 400 year old oak. Documented=A0=0A>trees  300 plus leave quite a bit of v=
ariation possible in the=0A>dying  age. The half life will be much less of =
course but ones=0A>at  the end of the scale might easily get over the 400.=
=0A>Oak  in the 1800 - 1875 period of wooden ships were sought=0A>wherever =
 they could be found. The beautiful fall foliage made it=0A>hard  for them =
to hide! And the lads were good at handling big logs.=0A>They  didn't get s=
pars at the building supply store.=0A>They  removed most of the large oak a=
t that period especially=A0=0A>where  it was easy to do - PEI for example, =
no stones, hills not too  steep=A0=0A>and  lots of horses and a good demand=
.=A0=0A>I  would be susprised if you could find one there over 200 years  o=
ld.=A0=0A>=0A>And  to see some of the things=A0I see in the deep woods make=
  me=0A>believe there wasn't much of NS  left=A0to chance for a  big tree. =
Spruce or oak!=0A>Have a nice fall=0A>=0A>Paul=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>_____=
___________________________=0A> From: Heather Drope  <heather.drope@ns.symp=
atico.ca>=0A>To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca =0A>Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2=
012 2:15:41  PM=0A>Subject: [NatureNS] old  oak=0A>=0A>=0A>As we speak, it =
 could be being up rooted. I had not realized how big around this tree was =
 before the land was sold or I would have documented the size for the Big T=
ree  listing on NatureNS web site. Too late now.. I am not going to trespas=
s on to  this land. =0A>Heather.. =0A>Heather Drope=0A>Nova  Scotia Wild Fl=
ora Society=0A>www.nswildflora.ca=0A>902-440-5032=0A>=0A>=0A>We do  not see=
 nature with our eyes, =0A>but  with our understandings and our hearts. =0A=
>=A0W.  Hazlett=0A>=0A> =0A>No virus found in this  message.=0A>Checked by =
AVG - www.avg.com=0A>Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus =0A  Database: 2441/5289 =
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Hi Dave</s=
pan></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: =
'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent;=
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es new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; fon=
t-style: normal; "><span>Never saw that.</span></div><div style=3D"color: r=
gb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', t=
imes, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span>Hav=
e a nice day</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px=
; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-colo=
r: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span>Paul</span></div><div><br></div=
>=20
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nt-size: 12pt; "> <div style=3D"font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york',=
 times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font size=3D"2" face=
=3D"Arial"> <hr size=3D"1">  <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</sp=
an></b> David &amp; Alison Webster &lt;dwebster@glinx.com&gt;<br> <b><span =
style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> naturens@chebucto.ns.ca <br> <b=
><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, September 2=
6, 2012 9:30:27 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span=
></b> Re: [NatureNS] old oak<br> </font> </div> <br><meta http-equiv=3D"x-d=
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title>=0A =0A =0A<style></style>=0A=0A<div>=0A<div><font size=3D"2">Hi Paul=
 &amp; All,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =0A&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sept =0A26, 2012</font=
></div>=0A<div><font size=3D"2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Someone who knows about =
the days of iron =0Amen &amp; wooden ships may know better but I think the =
spars (not masts) were