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DIV> --part1_a93c.5513920a.3d56a700_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A close friend in Vermont who used to breed and show sheep had two guard dogs. Don't know the breed but they apparently originated in Macedonia. They were very large white dogs that were fine with human visitors but killed everything else that wasn't a sheep, including lots of deer. He finally replaced them with specially bred guard donkeys that proved very effective and easier to look after. Peter Stow Hubbards In a message dated 10/08/2012 2:27:51 P.M. Atlantic Daylight Time, HEBDAAJ@gov.ns.ca writes: Strange you mention Cluns - that is what we have... and indeed - they are more aggressive... Guardian dogs such as Pyrenees and Maremmas don't tolerate such visitors. we have, in addition found that our llama is also not very partial to visitors - be they avian or terrestrial. A >>> Paul MacDonald <paulrita2001@yahoo.com> 10/08/2012 1:29 PM >>> Hi Richard I didn't see the article so cann't comment on it but eagles preying on lambs are a problem world over. No doubt goes back before sheep were domesticated. Some breeds are more at risk than other. Do you know the Clum Forest? Or is it Clun? Sheep from there are very aggressive and will put the run to eagles. The breed has other shortcoming though - LOL The Guard dogs - the big white fellows from Europe are very effective on eagles as well as coyotes and just about anything else that will venture near the flock. I think they developed in a few different countries so there is a few different breeds but are very alike.Sheep farmers tell me they are a great investment. However if you see a strange bird in a field of sheep and there is a big white dog there - don't go in the field for a closer look! You might get to find out about their dental works! Very protective but real pets for those they know. Enjoy the summer Paul ____________________________________ From: Richard Stern <sternrichard@gmail.com> To: NatureNS <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 12:55:31 PM Subject: [NatureNS] Eagles eating sheep? There was a CBC news item yesterday about a farmer in Maccan complaining that Eagles were attacking and eating his lambs. There are "several Eagles' nests" there. I have never heard of Bald Eagles behaving this way, but it reminds me of similar stories years ago regarding Golden Eagles in the English Lake District, where I used to go hiking in my youth. I don't know if that was ever proven. I thought Bald eagles just eat dead chickens and live fish. Any comments? Richard -- ################# Richard Stern, Port Williams, NS, Canada _sternrichard@gmail.com_ (mailto:sternrichard@gmail.com) ################### --part1_a93c.5513920a.3d56a700_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII" http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META name=3DGENERATOR content=3D"MSHTML 9.00.8112.16447"></HEAD> <BODY style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 14pt" id=3Dro= le_body=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Dro= le_document=20 color=3D#000000 size=3D4 face=3DArial> <DIV><FONT size=3D4>A close friend in Vermont who used to breed and show sh= eep had=20 two guard dogs. Don't know the breed but they apparently originated in= =20 Macedonia. They were very large white dogs that were fine with human visito= rs=20 but killed everything else that wasn't a sheep, including lots of=20 deer.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D4>He finally replaced them with specially bred guard donk= eys=20 that proved very effective and easier to look after.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D4>Peter Stow</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D4>Hubbards</FONT></DIV> <DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 10/08/2012 2:27:51 P.M. Atlantic Daylight Time,=20 HEBDAAJ@gov.ns.ca writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px">= <FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3DA= rial> <DIV>Strange you mention Cluns - that is what we have... and indeed - the= y are=20 more aggressive... Guardian dogs such as Pyrenees and Maremmas don't tole= rate=20 such visitors. we have, in addition found that our llama is also no= t=20 very partial to visitors - be they avian or terrestrial.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>A</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR><BR>>>> Paul MacDonald <paulrita2001@yahoo.com>= =20 10/08/2012 1:29 PM >>><BR></DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE:= 12pt"> <DIV><SPAN>Hi Richard</SPAN></DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: = 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: = 16px"><SPAN>I=20 didn't see the article so cann't comment on it but</SPAN></DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: = 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: = 16px"><SPAN>eagles=20 preying on lambs are a problem world over. </SPAN></DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: = 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: = 16px"><SPAN>No=20 doubt goes back before sheep were domesticated.</SPAN></DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: = 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: = 16px"><SPAN>Some=20 breeds are more at risk than other. Do you know the Clum Forest?</SPAN></= DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: = 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: = 16px"><SPAN>Or=20 is it Clun?</SPAN></DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: = 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: = 16px"><SPAN>Sheep=20 from there are very aggressive and will put the run to=20 eagles. </SPAN></DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: = 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: = 16px"><SPAN>The=20 breed has other shortcoming though - LOL</SPAN></DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: = 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: = 16px"><SPAN>The=20 Guard dogs - the big white fellows from Europe are very effective</SPAN><= /DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: = 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: = 16px"><SPAN>on=20 eagles as well as coyotes and just about anything else that will venture = near=20 the flock.</SPAN></DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: = 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: = 16px"><SPAN>I=20 think they developed in a few different countries so there is a few diffe= rent=20 breeds</SPAN></DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: = 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: = 16px"><SPAN>but=20 are very alike.</SPAN><SPAN style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Sheep= =20 farmers tell me they are a great investment.</SPAN></DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: = 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: = 16px"><SPAN=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">However if you see a=20 strange </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">bird in= a=20 field of sheep and there is a big white dog there </SPAN></DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: = 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: = 16px"><SPAN=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">- don't go </SPAN><SPAN=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">in the field for a closer look! Y= ou=20 might get to find out about their dental works!</SPAN></DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: = 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: = 16px"><SPAN=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Very protective but real pets for= those=20 they know.</SPAN></DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: = 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: = 16px">Enjoy=20 the summer</DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: = 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: = 16px">Paul</DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: = 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: = 16px"><BR></DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: = 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: = 16px"><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; FONT-S= IZE: 12pt"> <DIV=20 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; FONT-S= IZE: 12pt"> <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial> <HR SIZE=3D1> <B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Richard Stern=20 <sternrichard@gmail.com><BR><B><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> NatureNS=20 <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> <BR><B><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, August 10, 2012 12:5= 5:31=20 PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [NatureNS]= Eagles=20 eating sheep?<BR></FONT></DIV><BR> <META content=3Doff http-equiv=3Dx-dns-prefetch-control> <DIV id=3Dyiv237069286>There was a CBC news item yesterday about a farmer= in=20 Maccan complaining that Eagles were attacking and eating his lambs. There= are=20 "several Eagles' nests" there. I have never heard of Bald Eagles behaving= this=20 way, but it reminds me of similar stories years ago regarding Golden Eagl= es in=20 the English Lake District, where I used to go hiking in my youth. I don't= know=20 if that was ever proven. I thought Bald eagles just eat dead chickens and= live=20 fish. Any comments?=20 <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Richard<BR clear=3Dall> <DIV><BR></DIV>-- <BR>#################<BR>Richard Stern, <BR>Port Willia= ms,=20 NS, Canada<BR><A title=3Dmailto:sternrichard@gmail.com=20 href=3D"mailto:sternrichard@gmail.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank=20 ymailto=3D"mailto:sternrichard@gmail.com">sternrichard@gmail.com</A><BR>#= ##################<BR></DIV></DIV> <META content=3Don=20 http-equiv=3Dx-dns-prefetch-control><BR><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></FONT></BL= OCKQUOTE></DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML> --part1_a93c.5513920a.3d56a700_boundary--
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