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--Apple-Mail-51 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01CD4224.C6E7D370 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This reminds me of the "public" consultation, earlier this spring, on the DFO website. There was an encouraging lot in the preamble about the need for sustainable fisheries, but there were only three questions for the public. Two, broad ones asked for input as to how to make Canada's fisheries more competitive. The only sustainability-related question related to by-catch management. Bycatch is a valid concern, but certainly doesn't cover the whole sustainability picture. The current owner-operator and fleet separation policies may get in the way of short-term competitiveness, but by helping insure that locally-based small-scale fishers have a role in managing the resource, they help assure sustainability. The big guys can fish where they want, decimate stocks, and move elsewhere, and a lot of former inshore Newfoundland fishers can Somali pirates can testify. From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Andrew Horn Sent: June-04-12 7:04 AM To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Subject: Re: [NatureNS] blackoutspeakout Hi all, The Purpose section of C-38 does sound perfectly reasonable. The devil is in the details; a handy summary of 10 of the worst (not all of which I find all that bad, but some of which are awful) is here: http://www.ecojustice.ca/files/budget-bill-top-10-list/at_download/file It takes a lot of patience to sort through the actual bill and find all these. Which of course is part of the problem. Hope that helps, Andy Horn Halifax On Jun 4, 2012, at 6:20 AM, Rick Whitman wrote: First, this and other items should never have been included in a "Budget" Bill. Their placement there is a calculated slap in the face to Canadian parliamentary tradition. It is a statement that the Opposition has no useful role in government. Second, the Harper Government has made it perfectly clear that they plan to restrict and reduce the environmental impact process, reduce environmental research, reduce fisheries research, reduce climate change research, reduce Arctic climate monitoring, downsize Environment Canada, downsize Parks Canada within EC, downsize Fisheries & Oceans Canada, eliminate our commitments under Kyoto, increase the development of the oilsands, challenge the involvement of charitable environmental groups in environmental issues, and so forth. All of this has been public. One would have to make a conscious choice in order to believe that huge changes have not occurred and will not continue to occur, most likely at a faster pace. Rick Whitman On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 4:19 PM, james simpson <desolatechair@gmail.com> wrote: Perhaps you would cite the relevant sections in C 38 that are so contentious? I've read through most of the bill as it relates to environmental issues that I can find and it all seems pretty reasonable and prudent to me. ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01CD4224.C6E7D370 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta = http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"><meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 14 = (filtered medium)"><style><!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {mso-style-priority:99; color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D;} .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; font-size:10.0pt;} @page WordSection1 {size:612.0pt 792.0pt; margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;} div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;} --></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit"> <o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=3DEN-CA link=3Dblue = vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'>This reminds me of the “public” consultation, earlier = this spring, on the DFO website. There was an encouraging lot in = the preamble about the need for sustainable fisheries, but there were = only three questions for the public. Two, broad ones asked for = input as to how to make Canada’s fisheries more competitive. = The only sustainability-related question related to by-catch = management. Bycatch is a valid concern, but certainly = doesn’t cover the whole sustainability = picture.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'>The current owner-operator and fleet separation policies may get in = the way of short-term competitiveness, but by helping insure that = locally-based small-scale fishers have a role in managing the resource, = they help assure sustainability. The big guys can fish where they = want, decimate stocks, and move elsewhere, and a lot of former inshore = Newfoundland fishers can Somali pirates can testify. = <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div = style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm = 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>= </b><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> = naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] =