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Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 07:04:19 -0300
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Hi all,

The Purpose section of C-38 does sound perfectly reasonable. The devil =
is in the details; a handy summary of 10 of the worst (not all of which =
I find all that bad, but some of which are awful) is here: =
http://www.ecojustice.ca/files/budget-bill-top-10-list/at_download/file

It takes a lot of patience to sort through the actual bill and find all =
these. Which of course is part of the problem.

Hope that helps,
Andy Horn
Halifax


On Jun 4, 2012, at 6:20 AM, Rick Whitman wrote:

> First, this and other items should never have been included in a =
"Budget" Bill. Their placement there is a calculated slap in the face to =
Canadian parliamentary tradition. It is a statement that the Opposition =
has no useful role in government.
>=20
> Second, the Harper Government has made it perfectly clear that they =
plan to restrict and reduce the environmental impact process, reduce =
environmental research, reduce fisheries research, reduce climate change =
research, reduce Arctic climate monitoring, downsize Environment Canada, =
downsize Parks Canada within EC, downsize Fisheries & Oceans Canada, =
eliminate our commitments under Kyoto, increase the development of the =
oilsands, challenge the involvement of charitable environmental groups =
in environmental issues, and so forth.
>=20
> All of this has been public. One would have to make a conscious choice =
in order to believe that huge changes have not occurred and will not =
continue to occur, most likely at a faster pace.
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> Rick Whitman
>=20
> On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 4:19 PM, james simpson =
<desolatechair@gmail.com> wrote:
> Perhaps you would cite the relevant sections in C 38 that are so =
contentious?  I've read through most of the bill as it relates to =
environmental issues that I can find and it all seems pretty reasonable =
and prudent to me.
>=20


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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi =
all,<div><br></div><div>The Purpose section of C-38 does sound perfectly =
reasonable. The devil is in the details; a handy summary of 10 of the =
worst (not all of which I find all that bad, but some of which are =
awful) is here:&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"http://www.ecojustice.ca/files/budget-bill-top-10-list/at_download=
/file">http://www.ecojustice.ca/files/budget-bill-top-10-list/at_download/=
file</a></div><div><br></div><div>It takes a lot of patience to sort =
through the actual bill and find all these. Which of course is part of =
the problem.</div><div><br></div><div>Hope that helps,</div><div>Andy =
Horn</div><div>Halifax</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jun 4, =
2012, at 6:20 AM, Rick Whitman wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite">First, =
this and other items should never have been included in a "Budget" Bill. =
Their placement there is a calculated slap in the face to Canadian =
parliamentary tradition. It is a statement that the Opposition has no =
useful role in government.<div>
<br></div><div>Second, the Harper Government has made it perfectly clear =
that they plan to restrict and reduce the environmental impact process, =
reduce environmental research, reduce fisheries research, reduce climate =
change research, reduce Arctic climate monitoring, downsize Environment =
Canada, downsize Parks Canada within EC, downsize Fisheries &amp; Oceans =
Canada, eliminate our commitments under Kyoto, increase the development =
of the oilsands, challenge the involvement of charitable environmental =
groups in environmental issues, and so forth.</div>

<div><br></div><div>All of this has been public. One would have to make =
a conscious choice in order to believe that huge changes have not =
occurred and will not continue to occur, most likely at a faster =
pace.</div><div><br>
</div><div>Rick Whitman<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 3, =
2012 at 4:19 PM, james simpson <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:desolatechair@gmail.com" =
target=3D"_blank">desolatechair@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

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environmental issues that I can find and it all seems pretty reasonable =
and prudent to me.<br>
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