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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2">& ---2114655128-1269165625-1332267550=:87080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you Ulli for your remarks.=0AYou confirmed that when people on both s= ides of a question direct=A0=0Acriticism your way, you are probably on the = right track.=0APlease do not use any of my observations in whatever you use= observations for.=0AIn that way there will be no need for me to state any = locations.=0AEnjoy the spring=0APaul=0A=0A=0A______________________________= __=0A From: "ulli@dunlin.ca" <ulli@dunlin.ca>=0ATo: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca= =0ASent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 1:47:58 PM=0ASubject: [NatureNS] RE: Loca= tion again=0A =0A=0A =0A=0A=0A> First of all, rules like this tend to be us= ed by bullies on the group=0A> to make posters conform. If its not that rul= e, they will have another=0A> so we may as well confront them on this one. = One fellow has rules re the subject=0A> of the post - he changes mine when = he makes some remarks. Bully tactics.=0A=0AI don't recall anyone making, im= posing, or trying to make up rules here. At least not in recent =0Adays.=A0= =A0=A0 All I can recall here on NatureNS were requests, some even accompani= ed by =0Areasons.=0A=0A> A lady recently posted about her desire to have lo= cation in the posts. I have=0A> never read to my knowledge any posts from h= er. She wants to make the rules=0A> but doesn't post herself. A cyber bully= !=0A=0AThis was one of the requests I remember.=A0 Words used were "Could m= ake an effort" and =0A"Thanks".=A0 Not exactly what falls under rule making= in my books, or even worse to qualify and =0Abrand someone as being a bull= y.=0A=0AYou talk about "cyber bullies" and "bully tactics". For me a lot of= your write up above falls into this category.=A0 =0AVery well suited to sh= ut people up, or make them into something they are not.=0A=0AI don't know w= hat kind of communication happened outside NatureNS between you and other = =0Afolks, some of it may fit the bill of bullying, but I can only build my = opinion on what I see out =0Ahere in public.=0A=0AAs far as the rest goes, = what are reports of sightings worth if readers have no clue where and =0Awh= en they happened.=A0 As I said before we don't need to reveal exact locatio= n and =0Awhereabouts, we heard about examples where this backfired in the p= ast,=A0 but Nova Scotia is =0Abig enough to desire some geographical refere= nces to appreciate reports and make them =0Auseful information.=A0 =0A=0AAp= art from this everyone should be free to post as much or as little as he or= she feels, as =0Along as it is appropriate in contents and tone.=A0 This i= s not a rule. its my opinion and what I =0Aconsider good manners.=0A=0AUlli ---2114655128-1269165625-1332267550=:87080 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti= mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Thank you = Ulli for your remarks.</span></div><div><span>You confirmed that when peopl= e on both sides of a question direct </span></div><div><span>criticism= your way, you are probably on the right track.</span></div><div><span>Plea= se do not use any of my observations in whatever you use observations for.<= /span></div><div><span>In that way there will be no need for me to state an= y locations.</span></div><div><span>Enjoy the spring</span></div><div><span= >Paul</span></div><div><br></div> <div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-fami= ly: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "> <div style=3D"font-size= : 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "> <div d= ir=3D"ltr"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> <hr size=3D"1"> <b><span styl= e=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> "ulli@dunlin.ca" <ulli@dunlin.c= a><br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> naturens@chebucto.ns.= ca <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, Mar= ch 20, 2012 1:47:58 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</= span></b> [NatureNS] RE: Location again<br> </font> </div> <br><meta http-e= quiv=3D"x-dns-prefetch-control" content=3D"off"><div id=3D"yiv2123311635">= =0A=0A<title></title>=0A =0A =0A=0A<div>=0A<div align=3D"left"><font face= =3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;"><br>=0A</span></font>= </div>=0A<div align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#7f0000" size=3D= "2"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;">> First of all, rules like this tend= to be used by bullies on the group</span></font></div>=0A<div align=3D"lef= t"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#7f0000" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-si= ze:10pt;">> to make posters conform. If its not that rule, they will hav= e another</span></font></div>=0A<div align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" co= lor=3D"#7f0000" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;">> so we may a= s well confront them on this one. One fellow has rules re the subject</span= ></font></div>=0A<div align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#7f0000"= size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;">> of the post - he changes m= ine when he makes some remarks. Bully tactics.</span></font></div>=0A<div a= lign=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt= ;"><br>=0A</span></font></div>=0A<div align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" s= ize=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;">I don't recall anyone making, imp= osing, or trying to make up rules here. At least not in recent </span></fon= t></div>=0A<div align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style= =3D"font-size:10pt;">days. All I can recall here on Natur= eNS were requests, some even accompanied by </span></font></div>=0A<div ali= gn=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;"= >reasons.</span></font></div>=0A<div align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" si= ze=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;"><br>=0A</span></font></div>=0A<div= align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#7f0000" size=3D"2"><span sty= le=3D"font-size:10pt;">> A lady recently posted about her desire to have= location in the posts. I have</span></font></div>=0A<div align=3D"left"><f= ont face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#7f0000" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10= pt;">> never read to my knowledge any posts from her. She wants to make = the rules</span></font></div>=0A<div align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" co= lor=3D"#7f0000" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;">> but doesn't= post herself. A cyber bully!</span></font></div>=0A<div align=3D"left"><fo= nt face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;"><br>=0A</span>= </font></div>=0A<div align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span s= tyle=3D"font-size:10pt;">This was one of the requests I remember. Wor= ds used were "Could make an effort" and </span></font></div>=0A<div align= =3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;">"= Thanks". Not exactly what falls under rule making in my books, or eve= n worse to qualify and </span></font></div>=0A<div align=3D"left"><font fac= e=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;">brand someone as bei= ng a bully.</span></font></div>=0A<div align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" = size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;"><br>=0A</span></font></div>=0A<d= iv align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:= 10pt;">You talk about "cyber bullies" and "bully tactics". For me a lot of = your write up above falls into this category. </span></font></div>=0A= <div align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-siz= e:10pt;">Very well suited to shut people up, or make them into something th= ey are not.</span></font></div>=0A<div align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" = size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;"><br>=0A</span></font></div>=0A<d= iv align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:= 10pt;">I don't know what kind of communication happened outside NatureNS be= tween you and other </span></font></div>=0A<div align=3D"left"><font face= =3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;">folks, some of it may= fit the bill of bullying, but I can only build my opinion on what I see ou= t </span></font></div>=0A<div align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2= "><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;">here in public.</span></font></div>=0A<di= v align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:1= 0pt;"><br>=0A</span></font></div>=0A<div align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial= " size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;">As far as the rest goes, what = are reports of sightings worth if readers have no clue where and </span></f= ont></div>=0A<div align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span styl= e=3D"font-size:10pt;">when they happened. As I said before we don't n= eed to reveal exact location and </span></font></div>=0A<div align=3D"left"= ><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;">whereabout= s, we heard about examples where this backfired in the past, but Nova= Scotia is </span></font></div>=0A<div align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" = size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;">big enough to desire some geogra= phical references to appreciate reports and make them </span></font></div>= =0A<div align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-= size:10pt;">useful information. </span></font></div>=0A<div align=3D"= left"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;"><br>= =0A</span></font></div>=0A<div align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"= 2"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;">Apart from this everyone should be free = to post as much or as little as he or she feels, as </span></font></div>=0A= <div align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-siz= e:10pt;">long as it is appropriate in contents and tone. This is not = a rule. its my opinion and what I </span></font></div>=0A<div align=3D"left= "><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;">consider = good manners.</span></font></div>=0A<div align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial= " size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;"><br>=0A</span></font></div>=0A= <div align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-siz= e:10pt;">Ulli</span></font></div>=0A</div>=0A=0A</div><meta http-equiv=3D"x= -dns-prefetch-control" content=3D"on"><br><br> </div> </div> </div></body>= </html> ---2114655128-1269165625-1332267550=:87080--
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