[NatureNS] Stonewalled; barely NatureNs material

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To confirm what Randy said, I've found ABEBooks extremely reliable -- =
have probably ordered close to a hundred books from them over the past =
decade, and never had a single problem. Dave's unlucky experience seems =
to be the exception. I'd recommend ABE very highly.
Brian




From: Fritz McEvoy=20
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 12:30 PM
To: NS NATURE=20
Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Stonewalled; barely NatureNs material


Hi All,
   I used a service like Abebooks a few years back but was worried that =
what happened to DW might occur. My solution was to locate and contact =
by phone the bookstore actually selling the book I was seeking. It was =
located in Hamilton  (if memory serves) and they were very helpful; =
offering to send the book that day and only receive payment (by personal =
check) after I had received the book and was happy with the purchase. I =
don't expect this solution will work for everyone as well as it did for =
me but at least you are dealing with a human being.
 All the best.
                        Fritz McEvoy
                        Sunrise Valley, CB=20
=20

> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:49:34 -0500
> From: bckcdb@istar.ca
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Stonewalled; barely NatureNs material
>=20
> On 2/20/2012 9:10 AM, andy dean wrote:
> > My sentiments also.....I have bought from Abe books many times for
> > years....never had a problem.
>=20
> * ABE books is a listing service, not a business. If you had a problem =

> with one supplier, and can't resolve it with the supplier, ABE has a =
way=20
> to register a complaint. In our case, ABE was the source, after a =
lapse=20
> of decades, of our copy of 'Triumph of the Darwinian Method,' and=20
> several other important books.
>=20
> fred.
> =
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* Randy Lauff <mailto:randy.lauff@gmail.com>
> > *To:* naturens@chebucto.ns.ca <mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
> > *Sent:* Monday, February 20, 2012 9:33 AM
> > *Subject:* Re: [NatureNS] Stonewalled; barely NatureNs material
> >
> > Sorry to hear of the problems, Dave. I've ordered from Abe many
> > times, and it's been flawless. I even found one of the books I had
> > as a kid /How the Animals get to the Zoo/.
> >
> > Sears, on the other hand... oh, that's not even close to NatureNS
> > material.
> >
> > Randy
> > _________________________________
> > RF Lauff
> > Way in the boonies of
> > Antigonish County, NS.
> >
> >
> > On 18 February 2012 22:17, David & Alison Webster
> > <dwebster@glinx.com <mailto:dwebster@glinx.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Dear All, Feb 18, 2012
> > In a strict sense this is not NatureNS material but I expect
> > many buy books and it does involve predatory behavior. Beware of
> > Abebooks. If your book arrives fine; but if it does not arrive
> > then tough. At least that has been my experience.
> >
> > I ordered a fairly expensive second-hand book from Abebooks UK
> > on Nov 14 and the order was sublet to J D Book Corner.
> >
> > When the book had not arrived by Dec 30 I tried to make contact
> > and have written twice (three times if you count today) more
> > requesting a refund but have received only automated replies to
> > the effect that someone will contact me within two days.
> >
> > And applying for a refund on their site, without direct contact
> > with a person, is like finding a way to untie the Gordian Knot.
> >
> > Too bad Lee Valley (a first-rate company) does not run Abebooks.
> >
> > Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville
> >
> >
> >
>=20
>=20
> --=20
>=20
> fred
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Frederick W. Schueler & Aleta Karstad
> Bishops Mills Natural History Centre - http://pinicola.ca/bmnhc.htm
> Mudpuppy Night in Oxford Mills - http://pinicola.ca/mudpup1.htm
> Daily Paintings - http://karstaddailypaintings.blogspot.com/
> South Nation Basin Art & Science Book
> http://pinicola.ca/books/SNR_book.htm
> RR#2 Bishops Mills, Ontario, Canada K0G 1T0
> on the Smiths Falls Limestone Plain 44* 52'N 75* 42'W
> (613)258-3107 <bckcdb at istar.ca> http://pinicola.ca/
> ------------------------------------------------------------
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<DIV><FONT size=3D3 face=3DCalibri>To confirm what Randy said, I've =
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<DIV><FONT size=3D3 face=3DCalibri>Brian</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr>Hi All,<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; I used&nbsp;a service like =
Abebooks a few=20
years back but was worried&nbsp;that what happened to DW might occur. My =

solution was to locate and contact by phone the bookstore actually =
selling the=20
book I was seeking. It was located in Hamilton&nbsp; (if memory serves) =
and they=20
were very helpful; offering to send the book that day&nbsp;and only =
receive=20
payment (by personal check) after I&nbsp;had received the book and was =
happy=20
with the purchase. I don't expect this solution will work for =
everyone&nbsp;as=20
well as it did for me but&nbsp;at least you are dealing with a human=20
being.<BR>&nbsp;All the=20
best.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
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Fritz=20
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p;&nbsp;Sunrise=20
Valley, CB&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>
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<DIV id=3DSkyDrivePlaceholder></DIV>&gt; Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:49:34 =

-0500<BR>&gt; From: bckcdb@istar.ca<BR>&gt; To: =
naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<BR>&gt;=20
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Stonewalled; barely NatureNs material<BR>&gt; =
<BR>&gt;=20
On 2/20/2012 9:10 AM, andy dean wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt; My sentiments =
also.....I=20
have bought from Abe books many times for<BR>&gt; &gt; years....never =
had a=20
problem.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; * ABE books is a listing service, not a =
business. If=20
you had a problem <BR>&gt; with one supplier, and can't resolve it with =
the=20
supplier, ABE has a way <BR>&gt; to register a complaint. In our case, =
ABE was=20
the source, after a lapse <BR>&gt; of decades, of our copy of 'Triumph =
of the=20
Darwinian Method,' and <BR>&gt; several other important books.<BR>&gt; =
<BR>&gt;=20
fred.<BR>&gt; =
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=3D=3D=3D<BR>&gt;=20
<BR>&gt; &gt; ----- Original Message -----<BR>&gt; &gt; *From:* Randy =
Lauff=20
&lt;mailto:randy.lauff@gmail.com&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; *To:* =
naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
&lt;mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; *Sent:* Monday, =
February 20,=20
2012 9:33 AM<BR>&gt; &gt; *Subject:* Re: [NatureNS] Stonewalled; barely =
NatureNs=20
material<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Sorry to hear of the problems, Dave. =
I've=20
ordered from Abe many<BR>&gt; &gt; times, and it's been flawless. I even =
found=20
one of the books I had<BR>&gt; &gt; as a kid /How the Animals get to the =

Zoo/.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Sears, on the other hand... oh, that's =
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Randy<BR>&gt;=20
&gt; _________________________________<BR>&gt; &gt; RF Lauff<BR>&gt; =
&gt; Way in=20
the boonies of<BR>&gt; &gt; Antigonish County, NS.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; On 18 February 2012 22:17, David &amp; Alison =
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&gt; &lt;dwebster@glinx.com &lt;mailto:dwebster@glinx.com&gt;&gt; =
wrote:<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Dear All, Feb 18, 2012<BR>&gt; &gt; In a strict sense =
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not NatureNS material but I expect<BR>&gt; &gt; many buy books and it =
does=20
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book=20
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least that=20
has been my experience.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; I ordered a fairly =
expensive=20
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but have=20
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will=20
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refund=20
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