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Index of Subjects This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01CCE0CC.65BD0B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here Here I know most of my knowledge and best life experiences came while armed = with traps, guns, fishing rods,.... while enjoying "The Harvest". Hunting, Fishing and Gathering was (and continue to be) the bases for = discovery, invention, and most importantly identification of habitats = and then ultimately to their protection. These activities are the true = "canaries" because they travel further, deeper, wider, access more = remote areas, and spend far greater time afield then the vast majority. = Also some of the most knowledgeable active stewards of nature first put = their feet to the ground, river, lake,and ocean as harvesters. How about = when search parities are needed (in wilderness areas) who's knowledge of = the area and skill set is sought out and depended on. One doesn't need = to look any further than our First Nations. (oh perhaps they were = miners). Now a days, I still enjoy the hunt relying on previously developed skill = sets but now I mostly carry a camera and binoculars. And so the evolution continues.=20 Tom K Canso ----- Original Message -----=20 From: David & Alison Webster=20 To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 8:03 PM Subject: Habitat conservation: was Re: [NatureNS] ?! Hello All, Jan 31, 2012 Just to put some balance in this discussion, and I do not wish to = defend the hunting of animals from vehicles, it has been my experience = (and perhaps I am out of date) that hunters and sports fishermen tend to = willingly support conservation of habitat with their own money whereas = naturalist organizations tend to be generous with other people's (tax) = money.=20 I am amused by the insinuation that there is something unsavory = about hunting and fishing. I hope Aldo Leopold, wherever he may be, is = suitably ashamed of himself.=20 In general, animals become less common as a result of habitat = impairment, not from hunting or fishing activities.=20 Drawing on memory, The Audubon Society was founded by an editor of = a rod and game magazine with funds (I think) drawn from rod and game = organizations. And the nucleus of Canada's National Park system was = established at the urging big game hunters so that large areas of high = quality habitat would be set aside in which hunting would be prohibited. Based on personal experience, most people involved in rod and game = activities have a deep appreciation of the natural world.=20 Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ulli@dunlin.ca=20 To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [NatureNS] ?! Well, no don't need to look that far. On our own doorstep we have an active Sport Fishing crowd on fresh = and salt water, shark fishing derbys off shore, plenty of Sunday morning = hunting and fishing shows on TV with "Sport" in the title, and then = there is Ducks Unlimited.=20 Sure this organization created a lot of protected waterfowl habitat, = and so do other organizations in this kind of recreational activities in = other areas. Lots of good work is done, important work. But the taste of a self = serving purpose often remains ........ Ulli > true! >=20 > On 31/01/12 7:36 AM, John and Nhung wrote: > > "Sport" can be pretty obscene sometimes, can't it? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca = [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] > > On Behalf Of Annabelle Thiebaux > > Sent: January-31-12 7:16 AM > > To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > > Subject: [NatureNS] ?! > > > >> The houbara bustard, a gentle desert bird native to Central = Asia, has > >> been poached to near-extinction despite being protected under > >> Pakistani law. These birds need your help! > >> > >> The Sindh Wildlife Department has full authority to control = sport > >> hunting. However, influential local personalities support this > >> tradition, and the law is not enforced. > > > >> These birds are crucial to maintaining the biodiversity of the = Middle > >> East and Central Asia, but are expected to go extinct in as = little as > >> 15 years if sport hunting is kept up. > >> > > > > >=20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1416 / Virus Database: 2109/4777 - Release Date: = 01/30/12 ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01CCE0CC.65BD0B60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" = "http://www.w3c.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/loose.dtd"> <HTML lang=3Den xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"=20 xml:lang=3D"en"><HEAD><TITLE></TITLE> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3Dtext/css http-equiv=3DContent-Style-Type> <META name=3DGENERATOR content=3D"MSHTML 9.00.8112.16440"> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Here Here</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I know most of my knowledge and best = life=20 experiences came while armed with traps, guns, fishing rods,.... while = enjoying=20 "The Harvest".</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Hunting, Fishing and Gathering was (and = continue to=20 be) the bases for discovery, invention, and most importantly = identification of=20 habitats and then ultimately to their protection. These activities are = the true=20 "canaries" because they travel further, deeper, wider, access more = remote areas,=20 and spend far greater time afield then the vast majority. Also some of = the most=20 knowledgeable active stewards of nature first put their feet to the = ground,=20 river, lake,and ocean as harvesters. How about when search parities are = needed=20 (in wilderness areas) who's knowledge of the area and skill set is = sought out=20 and depended on. One doesn't need to look any further than our First = Nations.=20 (oh perhaps they were miners).</FONT></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now a days, I still enjoy the hunt relying on previously developed = skill=20 sets but now I mostly carry a camera and binoculars.</DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And so the evolution continues. </DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Tom <SPAN class=3Dsquiggly=20 title=3D"To see spelling suggestions, click this word" word=3D"K" = state=3D"new"=20 splc=3D"splc">K</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Canso</FONT></DIV><FONT size=3D2=20 face=3DArial></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D2 = face=3DArial></FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; = PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 dir=3Dltr> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Ddwebster@glinx.com href=3D"mailto:dwebster@glinx.com">David = &=20 Alison Webster</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A> = </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 31, 2012 = 8:03=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Habitat conservation: = was Re:=20 [NatureNS] ?!</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hello All, =20 Jan 31,=20 2012</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> Just to put some balance in = this=20 discussion, and I do not wish to defend the hunting of animals from = vehicles,=20 it has been my experience (and perhaps I am out of date) that hunters = and=20 sports fishermen tend to willingly support conservation of=20 habitat with their own money whereas naturalist organizations = tend to be=20 generous with other people's (tax) money. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> I am amused by the insinuation = that there=20 is something unsavory about hunting and fishing. I hope Aldo Leopold, = wherever=20 he may be, is suitably ashamed of himself. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> In general, animals become less = common as=20 a result of habitat impairment, not from hunting or fishing=20 activities. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> Drawing on memory, The Audubon = Society=20 was founded by an editor of a rod and game magazine with funds (I = think) drawn=20 from rod and game organizations. And the nucleus of Canada's National = Park=20 system was established at the urging big game hunters so that = large areas=20 of high quality habitat would be set aside in which hunting would be=20 prohibited.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> Based on personal experience, = most people=20 involved in rod and game activities have a deep appreciation of = the=20 natural world. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> </FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; = PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 dir=3Dltr> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dulli@dunlin.ca = href=3D"mailto:ulli@dunlin.ca">ulli@dunlin.ca</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A> = </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 31, = 2012 8:48=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NatureNS] = ?!</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Well,</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN = style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">no=20 don't need to look that far.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN = style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">On our=20 own doorstep we have an active Sport Fishing crowd on fresh and salt = water,=20 shark fishing derbys off shore, plenty of Sunday morning hunting and = fishing=20 shows on TV with "Sport" in the title, and then there is Ducks = Unlimited.=20 </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN = style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sure=20 this organization created a lot of protected waterfowl habitat, and = so do=20 other organizations in this kind of recreational activities in other = areas.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN = style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Lots=20 of good work is done, important work. But the taste of a self = serving=20 purpose often remains ........</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Ulli</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> true!</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> On 31/01/12 7:36 AM, John and Nhung=20 wrote:</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> > "Sport" can be pretty obscene = sometimes,=20 can't it?</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> ></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> > -----Original=20 Message-----</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> > From: = naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca=20 [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> > On Behalf Of Annabelle=20 Thiebaux</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> > Sent: January-31-12 7:16=20 AM</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> > To:=20 naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> > Subject: [NatureNS] = ?!</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> ></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> >> The houbara bustard, a = gentle desert=20 bird native to Central Asia, has</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> >> been poached to = near-extinction=20 despite being protected under</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> >> Pakistani law. These birds = need your=20 help!</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> >></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> >> The Sindh Wildlife = Department has full=20 authority to control sport</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> >> hunting. However, = influential local=20 personalities support this</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> >> tradition, and the law is = not=20 enforced.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> ></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> >> These birds are crucial to = maintaining=20 the biodiversity of the Middle</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> >> East and Central Asia, but = are=20 expected to go extinct in as little as</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> >> 15 years if sport hunting is = kept=20 up.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> >></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> ></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> ></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#7f0000 size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=3Dleft> </DIV> <HR SIZE=3D1 noShade> <A></A> <P class=3Davgcert align=3Dleft color=3D"#000000">No virus found in = this=20 message.<BR>Checked by AVG - <A=20 href=3D"http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</A><BR>Version: 10.0.1416 / = Virus=20 Database: 2109/4777 - Release Date:=20 01/30/12</P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01CCE0CC.65BD0B60--
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