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Hi Jim,
many thanks for your very kind words. I have learned quite a bit =
about turtles in N.S. since first seeing that unusual one near the =
downtown Dartmouth stream in August..... By the way, I thoroughly enjoy =
reading your reports, often from The Valley, on NatureNS. What a breadth =
of knowledge of our region's natural history!
Dusan
----- Original Message -----=20
From: James W. Wolford=20
To: NatureNS ; John Gilhen ; Steve Mockford ; Brennan Caverhill ; Mark =
F Elderkin ; Sherman Boates=20
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 10:02 PM
Subject: [NatureNS] Red-eared Slider as a pet
Dusan, thanks for raising the issue and stimulating the comments, etc. =
At least where the turtle is now is an opportunity for some more public =
education about alien vs. native turtles and the history of the issue of =
sales of baby turtles in department stores as used to happen, with lots =
of casualties among the reptiles and perhaps also the humans. Maybe the =
wildlife park is already doing educational outreach on this, and perhaps =
also the Oak Lawn Zoo in the Aylesford area, where the baby Blanding's =
turtles are head-started for a couple of years before releases back into =
the wild, where the grown juveniles have better chances of surviving =
than do the hatchlings. Cheers from Jim in Wolfville.
Begin forwarded message:
From: Dusan Soudek <soudekd@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: September 26, 2011 8:55:43 PM ADT
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Red-eared Slider as a pet
Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Yes, the wording of the "turtle regulations" is pretty tortured. =
It doesn't look like they were written by a lawyer, nor a biologist.... =
I do wonder how often the Deputy Minister of Health grants permissions =
for individuals to keep a turtle.
Incidentally, DNR staff picked up the downtown Dartmouth =
Red-eared Slider at my house.. I do hope that it is enjoying its new =
domicile at the Shubenacadie Wildlife Park.
Dusan Soudek
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul S. Boyer
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Red-eared Slider as a pet
Guess that when they wrote the law, they didn't know that genera =
is the plural of genus.
So the Deputy Minister of Health can give you permission to sell a =
turtle. He might be a good friend to have. He probably has many =
friends. ;-)
On 22 Sep 2011, at 3:28 PM, Rick Ballard wrote:
Also , From the NS Health Protection Act : Prevention of =
Salmonella Infection by the Control of the Sale of Turtles Regulations
1 Except as provided in Section 2, no person shall sell turtles =
of any kind or genera.
2 Section 1 shall not apply to the sale of turtles to zoos, =
universities, or other post second ary educational institutions or to =
such other persons as the Deputy Minister of Health may authorize.
--=20
Rick Ballard=20
Dartmouth,Nova Scotia, Canada=20
http://www.ideaphore.com
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<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Hi Jim,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4> many thanks for your very kind =
words. I have=20
learned quite a bit about turtles in N.S. since first seeing that=20
unusual one near the downtown Dartmouth stream in August..... By =
the way,=20
I thoroughly enjoy reading your reports, often from The Valley, on=20
NatureNS. What a breadth of knowledge of our region's natural=20
history!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4> Dusan</FONT></DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Djimwolford@eastlink.ca =
href=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca">James W.=20
Wolford</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">NatureNS</A> ; <A=20
title=3DGILHENJA@gov.ns.ca href=3D"mailto:GILHENJA@gov.ns.ca">John =
Gilhen</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dstephen.mockford@acadiau.ca=20
href=3D"mailto:stephen.mockford@acadiau.ca">Steve Mockford</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dbrennan.caverhill@gmail.com=20
href=3D"mailto:brennan.caverhill@gmail.com">Brennan Caverhill</A> ; <A =
title=3Delderkmf@gov.ns.ca href=3D"mailto:elderkmf@gov.ns.ca">Mark F =
Elderkin</A>=20
; <A title=3Dboatesjs@gov.ns.ca =
href=3D"mailto:boatesjs@gov.ns.ca">Sherman=20
Boates</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 26, =
2011 10:02=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NatureNS] Red-eared =
Slider as a=20
pet</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Dusan, thanks for raising the issue and stimulating the =
comments, etc. At least where the turtle is now is an =
opportunity for=20
some more public education about alien vs. native turtles and the =
history of=20
the issue of sales of baby turtles in department stores as used to =
happen,=20
with lots of casualties among the reptiles and perhaps also the =
humans.=20
Maybe the wildlife park is already doing educational outreach on =
this,=20
and perhaps also the Oak Lawn Zoo in the Aylesford area, where the =
baby=20
Blanding's turtles are head-started for a couple of years before =
releases back=20
into the wild, where the grown juveniles have better chances of =
surviving than=20
do the hatchlings. Cheers from Jim in Wolfville.<BR>
<DIV><BR>
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color=3D#000000 size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>From: </B></FONT><FONT=20
style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica>Dusan =
Soudek <<A=20
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26, 2011=20
8:55:43 PM ADT</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica; =
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color=3D#000000 size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>To: </B></FONT><FONT=20
style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A></FONT=
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</B></FONT><FONT=20
style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>Re: =
[NatureNS]=20
Red-eared Slider as a pet</B></FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><A=20
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href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A></FONT=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D4> Yes, the wording of the "turtle =
regulations"=20
is pretty tortured. It doesn't look like they were written by =
a=20
lawyer, nor a biologist.... I do wonder how often the Deputy =
Minister of=20
Health grants permissions for individuals to keep a =
turtle.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4> Incidentally, DNR staff picked up =
the=20
downtown Dartmouth Red-eared Slider at my house.. I do hope that it =
is=20
enjoying its new domicile at the Shubenacadie Wildlife =
Park.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4> Dusan Soudek</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A></DIV>=
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>Monday, September 26, =
2011 8:20=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>Re: [NatureNS] =
Red-eared Slider=20
as a pet</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Guess that when they wrote the law, they didn't =
know that=20
genera is the plural of genus.
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>So the Deputy Minister of Health can give you permission to =
sell a=20
turtle. He might be a good friend to have. He probably =
has=20
many friends. ;-)</DIV>
<DIV><BR>
<DIV>
<DIV>On 22 Sep 2011, at 3:28 PM, Rick Ballard wrote:</DIV><BR=20
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<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">Also , From the NS Health Protection Act =
: <SPAN class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN><A=20
=
href=3D"http://gov.ns.ca/just/regulations/regs/hpaturtl.htm"><FONT=20
color=3D#004080>Prevention of Salmonella Infection by the =
Control of the=20
Sale of Turtles Regulations</FONT></A><BR><BR>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 40px"><FONT=20
color=3D#0000cc><STRONG>1</STRONG></FONT><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>Except as provided in =
Section=20
2, no person shall sell turtles of any kind or genera.</P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 40px"><FONT=20
color=3D#0000cc><STRONG>2</STRONG></FONT><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>Section 1 shall not =
apply to=20
the sale of turtles to zoos, universities, or other post second =
ary=20
educational institutions or to such other persons as the Deputy =
Minister=20
of Health may authorize.</P>--<SPAN=20
class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>Rick Ballard<SPAN =
class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>Dartmouth,Nova =
Scotia,=20
Canada<SPAN class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR><A=20
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