[NatureNS] Backyard bird count?

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Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 13:48:57 -0800 (PST)
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Hi Wayne;
 
I'm right on top of this.  
 
It's been explained to me (since I have sent in this exact observation before) that until that communities get entered by submitting a checklist.  So, as soon as one is entered by postal code, it goes into their database.
 
Since their system covers all of North America, you can 

--- On Sun, 2/20/11, Wayne P. Neily <neilyornis@hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Wayne P. Neily <neilyornis@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Backyard bird count?
To: "NatureNS List" <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>, "Great Backyard Bird Count" <gbbc@cornell.edu>, "Jeannie Shermerhorn" <jeannies@ns.sympatico.ca>, "David Christie" <maryspt@nbnet.nb.ca>, "Suzanne M. Borkowski" <suzanneborkowski@yahoo.ca>
Received: Sunday, February 20, 2011, 5:35 PM




 
    This is one of the main aspects of the GBBC that really ticks off a lot of people who live in small communities.  We have enough trouble maintaining community identities as schools, churches, and local post offices all fall victim to the "bigger is better" mentality.  There is no apparent reason why the GBBC could not accept the names of all communities, just as eBird does, perhaps requiring geographic co-ordinates and county the first time that one is entered.  Instead, when we enter a name, we get the "There is no record of that locale in our database", and we are required to enter a postal code or location that, as David notes, may be as much as 50km away.  This results in such ludicrous reports as Common Eider at Middleton or Aylesford.  Unfortunately, the civic street numbering has not helped in Nova Scotia,  Postal codes for most P. O.'s have not been subdivided, and, where
 they have, it is usually by delivery route, not local community, and any one of these may still cover 50km or more.  Psychologically, it has gotten worse in recent years, because of Post Office policies requiring us to include our street address with the community name where the P. O. is located, as though that town had just annexed all the surrounding communities (e.g., 562 Messenger Rd., Kingston).  I realize that GBBC has nothing to do with that, but it increases the irritation effect of every other attempt to suppress local names.
 
   I hope that the reviewers and anyone else who cares about accurate data or identities of small communities will encourage Pat Leonard and the GBBC crew to change this restrictive policy of locality data entry.
 
Cheers,





Wayne P. Neily
562 Messenger Rd.,  
Tremont, Kings Co., Nova Scotia

 "Go forth, under the open sky, and list 
To Nature's teachings." - William Cullen Bryant, 1817 [Thanatopsis]. 

 
> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 10:22:07 -0800
> From: suzanneborkowski@yahoo.ca
> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Backyard bird count?
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> 
> Hi Jeannie;
> 
> David Christie's answer is correct. If you're town or community isn't listed, and if it doesn't come up when you enter it on the page "Submit Your Checklist" - then use your postal code only. Leave the community space blank.
> 
> If you're entering sightings for another area, and that doesn't come up, enter a postal code of a house or business that is close to where you saw birds.
> 
> If you have any other questions, just contact me at:
> 
> suzanneborkowski@yahoo.ca
> 
> or phone me at: 445-2922
> 
> Thanks for
 participating!
> 
> Suzanne Borkowski
> GBBC Reviewer
> Nova Scotia
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Sun, 2/20/11, David Christie <maryspt@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
> 
> > From: David Christie <maryspt@nbnet.nb.ca>
> > Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Backyard bird count?
> > To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca, jeannies@ns.sympatico.ca
> > Received: Sunday, February 20, 2011, 9:24 AM
> > At 8:23 PM -0400 2/19/11, <jeannies@ns.sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > It won't work for me,The nearest place that I can get to
> > come up is Port Hawkesbury and I'm in Cape George
> > CB,NS.Which is(if you are familiar with the area) 
> > about 14 km west of St.Peter's.
> > Jeannie Shermerhorn
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Jeannie,
> > 
> > If Cape George isn't in the
 location database for the Great
> > Backyard Bird Count, you probably will have to be content
> > entering your rural route postal code which will be recorded
> > in a manner such as "B0A 1A0 town-where-the-route-starts."
> > In your case, I presume, that may be Port Hawkesbury. This
> > is not very precise because rural routes may be up to 50 or
> > more km long, but for mapping purposes it does place the
> > observations you report in the right district of Nova
> > Scotia.
> > 
> > Rural areas that have switched to civic number addressing
> > do not have this problem, because Canada Post then assigns
> > codes tied to their local communities.
> > 
> > Good luck with your observations,
> > 
> > 
> > David Christie
> > 
> > Harvey, Albert Co., NB  E4H 2M9
> >
 (formerly  Albert, NB  E0A 1A0)
> > http://www3.nbnet.nb.ca/maryspt
> > 


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