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    This is one of the main aspects of the GBBC that really ticks off a lot=
 of people who live in small communities.  We have enough trouble maintaini=
ng community identities as schools=2C churches=2C and local post offices al=
l fall victim to the "bigger is better" mentality.  There is no apparent re=
ason why the GBBC could not accept the names of all communities=2C just as =
eBird does=2C perhaps requiring geographic co-ordinates and county the firs=
t time that one is entered.  Instead=2C when we enter a name=2C we get the =
"There is no record of that locale in our database"=2C and we are required =
to enter a postal code or location that=2C as David notes=2C may be as much=
 as 50km away.  This results in such ludicrous reports as Common Eider at M=
iddleton or Aylesford.  Unfortunately=2C the civic street numbering has not=
 helped in Nova Scotia=2C  Postal codes for most P. O.'s have not been subd=
ivided=2C and=2C where they have=2C it is usually by delivery route=2C not =
local community=2C and any one of these may still cover 50km or more.  Psyc=
hologically=2C it has gotten worse in recent years=2C because of Post Offic=
e policies requiring us to include our street address with the community na=
me where the P. O. is located=2C as though that town had just annexed all t=
he surrounding communities (e.g.=2C 562 Messenger Rd.=2C Kingston).  I real=
ize that GBBC has nothing to do with that=2C but it increases the irritatio=
n effect of every other attempt to suppress local names.
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   I hope that the reviewers and anyone else who cares about accurate data =
or identities of small communities will encourage Pat Leonard and the GBBC =
crew to change this restrictive policy of locality data entry.
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Cheers=2C




Wayne P. Neily
562 Messenger Rd.=2C =20
Tremont=2C Kings Co.=2C Nova Scotia

 "Go forth=2C under the open sky=2C and list=20
To Nature's teachings." - William Cullen Bryant=2C 1817 [Thanatopsis].=20

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> Date: Sun=2C 20 Feb 2011 10:22:07 -0800
> From: suzanneborkowski@yahoo.ca
> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Backyard bird count?
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
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> Hi Jeannie=3B
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> David Christie's answer is correct. If you're town or community isn't lis=
ted=2C and if it doesn't come up when you enter it on the page "Submit Your=
 Checklist" - then use your postal code only. Leave the community space bla=
nk.
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> If you're entering sightings for another area=2C and that doesn't come up=
=2C enter a postal code of a house or business that is close to where you s=
aw birds.
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> If you have any other questions=2C just contact me at:
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> suzanneborkowski@yahoo.ca
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> or phone me at: 445-2922
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> Thanks for participating!
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> Suzanne Borkowski
> GBBC Reviewer
> Nova Scotia
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> --- On Sun=2C 2/20/11=2C David Christie <maryspt@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
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> > From: David Christie <maryspt@nbnet.nb.ca>
> > Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Backyard bird count?
> > To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=2C jeannies@ns.sympatico.ca
> > Received: Sunday=2C February 20=2C 2011=2C 9:24 AM
> > At 8:23 PM -0400 2/19/11=2C <jeannies@ns.sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> >=20
> > It won't work for me=2CThe nearest place that I can get to
> > come up is Port Hawkesbury and I'm in Cape George
> > CB=2CNS.Which is(if you are familiar with the area)=20
> > about 14 km west of St.Peter's.
> > Jeannie Shermerhorn
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> >=20
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> > Jeannie=2C
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> > If Cape George isn't in the location database for the Great
> > Backyard Bird Count=2C you probably will have to be content
> > entering your rural route postal code which will be recorded
> > in a manner such as "B0A 1A0 town-where-the-route-starts."
> > In your case=2C I presume=2C that may be Port Hawkesbury. This
> > is not very precise because rural routes may be up to 50 or
> > more km long=2C but for mapping purposes it does place the
> > observations you report in the right district of Nova
> > Scotia.
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> > Rural areas that have switched to civic number addressing
> > do not have this problem=2C because Canada Post then assigns
> > codes tied to their local communities.
> >=20
> > Good luck with your observations=2C
> >=20
> >=20
> > David Christie
> >=20
> > Harvey=2C Albert Co.=2C NB  E4H 2M9
> > (formerly  Albert=2C NB  E0A 1A0)
> > http://www3.nbnet.nb.ca/maryspt
> >  		 	   		  =

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&nbsp=3B<BR>
&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B This is one of the main aspects of the GBBC that r=
eally ticks off a lot of people who live in small communities.&nbsp=3B We h=
ave enough trouble maintaining community identities as schools=2C churches=
=2C and local post offices all fall victim to the "bigger is better" mental=
ity.&nbsp=3B There is no apparent reason why the GBBC could not accept the =
names of all communities=2C just as eBird does=2C perhaps requiring&nbsp=3B=
geographic co-ordinates and county&nbsp=3Bthe first time that&nbsp=3Bone is=
 entered.&nbsp=3B Instead=2C when we enter a name=2C we get the "There is n=
o record of that locale in our database"=2C and we are required to enter a =
postal code or location that=2C as David notes=2C may be as much as 50km aw=
ay.&nbsp=3B This results in such ludicrous reports as Common Eider at Middl=
eton or Aylesford.&nbsp=3B Unfortunately=2C the civic street numbering has =
not helped in Nova Scotia=2C&nbsp=3B Postal codes for most P. O.'s have not=
 been subdivided=2C and=2C where they have=2C it is usually by delivery rou=
te=2C not local community=2C and any one of these may still cover 50km or m=
ore.&nbsp=3B Psychologically=2C it has gotten worse in recent years=2C beca=
use of Post Office policies requiring us to include our street address with=
 the community name where the P. O. is located=2C as though that town had j=
ust annexed all the surrounding communities (e.g.=2C 562 Messenger Rd.=2C K=
ingston).&nbsp=3B I realize that GBBC has nothing to do with that=2C but it=
 increases the irritation effect&nbsp=3Bof every other attempt to suppress =
local names.<BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B I hope