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Hi Susann/Gayle, wondering if you are interested in ordering mealworms in
bulk. The people I buy from sell them by the 1000 and deliver to Burnside. =
I
order 20 000 at a time :) Helene
On 2011-01-05 12:59 AM, "Susann Myers" <myerss@eastlink.ca> wrote:
Hi, Gayle.
These problems sound so familiar to me, I do sympathize. It looked from th=
e
photos you posted the other day as if the brighter oriole is
a first-winter male and the other is a first-winter female, and the male
appeared to be driving the female away. I have also found in my yard that
the males are more aggressive about the food, and the females have a lower
winter survival rate. It is likely the pressure from the starlings that is
making the oriole so aggressive.
I solved this problem by presenting the mealworms in enough locations at th=
e
same time (inside cages) that the orioles all got an opportunity to have
their share. I also put the mealworms out at the same time each day, at
first light, so all the orioles were there waiting for them at once. It
took some juggling, and I had to make adjustments occasionally to keep
things balanced, but it did work. The females tended to all use certain
feeding cages, and the males the others (the preferred locations, closest t=
o
shrubbery). A friend told me one day, when I complained about the latest
adjustment, that I couldn't micromanage them, but in fact that was just wha=
t
it took - watching each day to see which orioles showed up, how many went t=
o
each cage etc., and making adjustments accordingly in the number of feeding
locations, the number of mealworms in each one, and so on.
I have lots of the wire netting if you want to pick some up and make a
second enclosure (I have loaned out the second cage like yours, for the
present). If you make it round in shape, it only takes a few minutes and a
few twist ties to turn the wiring into a cage - I'd be glad to help.
I also found that the orioles showed up just a few minutes earlier than the
starlings in the morning, so at dawn I could put one dish of mealworms on
top of each cage, and one inside, and the orioles got them all. but my
ratio of orioles to starlings was higher, the orioles formed a gang of thei=
r
own, so that might not work for you.
Have you tried a 50/50 mixture of grape jelly and melted soft suet (my
recipe)? It is very appealing to the orioles - smells like a peanut butter
and jelly sandwich when it's still warm, and covers all the major food
groups! If you put some in each of 2 feeding cages, and the cages were far
enough apart, both orioles should get some.
I'll be home on the week-end, but if you want to come before that and take
some netting, just help yourself. If you let me know you were coming, I
could leave out the wire cutters.
Hope this helps,
Susann
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*From:* Gayle MacLean <duartess2003@yahoo.ca>
*To:* naturens@chebucto.ns.ca ; nsbird list <ns-rba@yahoogroups.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 8:45 PM
*Subject:* [NS-RBA] re: [NatureNS] red winged blackbird/Baltimore Oriole
Update
Sorry, you weren't able to photograph the RW Blackbird
Was at Sullivan's Pond today, did not see the American Coots, but did see 1
Eurasian Wigeon.
The 2 Baltimore Orioles that have been visiting my feeders seem to be
doing reasonably alright, here at my backyard feeders.
I am a little concerned about one though. One is very aggressive-- and
whenever possible, blocks the other from entering the enclosure (where I
present the mealworms) at all. Am now offering 2 mealworm trays twice a day
when possible (the J.O.B. does get in the way, however, no matter how early
in the day), one in the enclosure & one in the open on a large rock nearby,
but competed for, & usually, won over, by the Starlings that eat absolutely=
,
EVERYTHING! I do think one may be starving (despite the concord grape
& homemade suet, I've been offering) as I did see bright green (almost
luminescent) feces inside the enclosure, this afternoon.
Any advice greatly appreciated
Gayle MacLean
Dartmouth
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<p>Hi=A0 Susann/Gayle, wondering if you are=A0 interested in ordering mealw=
orms in bulk. The people I buy from sell them by the 1000 and deliver to Bu=
rnside. I order 20 000 at a time :) Helene</p>
<p><blockquote type=3D"cite">On 2011-01-05 12:59 AM, "Susann Myers&quo=
t; <myerss@eastlink.ca> wro=
te:<br><br>
<div style=3D"background-color:#fff" bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Hi, Gayle.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">These problems sound so familiar to me=
, I do=20
sympathize.=A0 It looked from the photos you posted the other day as if the=
=20
brighter oriole is a=A0first-winter=A0male and the other is a first-winter=
=20
female, and the male appeared to be driving the female away.=A0 I have also=
=20
found in my yard that the males are more aggressive about the food, and the=
=20
females have a lower winter survival rate.=A0 It is likely the pressure fro=
m=20
the starlings that is making the oriole so=A0aggressive.</font></div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">I solved this problem by presenting th=
e mealworms=20
in enough locations at=A0the same time=A0(inside cages) that=A0the=20
orioles=A0all got an opportunity to have their share.=A0 I also put the=20
mealworms out at the same time each day, at first light, so all the orioles=
were=20
there waiting for them at once.=A0 It took some juggling, and I had to make=
=20
adjustments occasionally to keep things balanced, but it did work.=A0 The=
=20
females tended to all use certain feeding cages, and the males the others (=
the=20
preferred locations, closest to shrubbery).=A0=A0A friend told me one day,=
=20
when I complained about the latest adjustment, that I couldn't microman=
age them,=20
but in fact that was just what it took - watching each day to see=A0which=
=20
orioles showed up,=A0how many=A0went to each cage etc., and making=20
adjustments accordingly in the number of feeding locations, the number of=
=20
mealworms in each one,=A0and so on.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">I have lots of the wire netting if you=
want to pick=20
some up and make a second enclosure (I have loaned out the second cage like=
=20
yours, for the present).</font>=A0<font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> If you m=
ake it=20
round in shape, it only takes a few minutes and a few twist ties to=20
turn=A0the wiring=A0into a cage - I'd be glad to help.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">I also found that the orioles showed u=
p just a few=20
minutes earlier than the starlings in the morning, so at dawn I could put o=
ne=20
dish of mealworms on top of each cage, and one inside, and the orioles got =
them=20
all.=A0 but my ratio of orioles to starlings was higher, the orioles formed=
a=20
gang of their own, so that might not work for you.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Have you tried a 50/50 mixture of grap=
e jelly and=20
melted soft suet (my recipe)?=A0 It is very appealing to the orioles - smel=
ls=20
like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich when it's still warm, and cover=
s all the=20
major food groups!=A0 If you put some in each of 2 feeding cages, and the=
=20
cages were far enough apart, both orioles should get some.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">I'll be home on the week-end, but =
if you want to=20
come before that and take some netting, just help yourself.=A0 If you let m=
e=20
know you were coming, I could leave out the wire cutters.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Hope this helps,</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Susann</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
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<div style=3D"font:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style=3D"background:#e4e4e4;font:10pt arial"><b>From:</b>=20
<a title=3D"duartess2003@yahoo.ca" href=3D"mailto:duartess2003@yahoo.ca" =
target=3D"_blank">Gayle=20
MacLean</a> </div>
<div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"naturens@chebucto.n=
s.ca" href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank">naturens@ch=
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5=20
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<div style=3D"font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> [NS-RBA] re: [NatureNS] re=
d=20
winged blackbird/Baltimore Oriole Update</div>
<div><br></div><span>=A0</span>=20
<div>
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<div>Sorry, you weren't able to photograph the RW Blackbird</di=
v>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Was at Sullivan's Pond today, did not see the American=20
Coots,=A0but did see 1 =A0Eurasian Wigeon.</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial"></font>=A0</div>
<div>The 2 Baltimore Orioles that have been visiting my=20
feeders=A0seem to be doing=A0reasonably alright,=A0here at my=20
backyard feeders.</div>
<div>I=A0am a little concerned about one though. One is very=20
aggressive-- and whenever possible, blocks=A0the other=A0from=20
entering the enclosure (where I present the mealworms)=A0at=20
all.=A0Am now offering 2 mealworm trays twice a day when possible=
=20
(the J.O.B. does get in the way, however, no matter how early in th=
e=20
day), one in the enclosure & one in the open on a large rock ne=
arby,=20
but competed for, & usually,=A0won over,=A0by the Starlings=20
that eat absolutely, EVERYTHING! I do think one may be starving (de=
spite=20
the concord grape &=A0homemade suet, I've been offering)=A0=
as=20
I did see bright green=A0(almost luminescent) feces inside the=20
enclosure, this afternoon.=A0</div>
<div>Any advice greatly appreciated</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Gayle MacLean</div>
<div>Dartmouth<br></div>
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