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round in shape, it only takes a fe Hi Gayle With a few hundred starlings here daily I also can sympathize. I only have one (f) Balt. oriole that I'm trying to get through the winter this year. The other 7-8 decided to move on before the weather set in in late Nov. When my flock is large I feed in multiple locations spread apart enough to reduce pressure (but it will never eliminate it). I've had one indivual bird able keep 5 other orioles and about 40 starlings from feeding at 4 locations that were wide spread (40' from closest and furthest) for a few days. You haven't seen a scrappy defender of your Oriole food until you've had a A. Robin lay claim to the food source. The first solution that works for me has more to do with location of the food. I've found that Rare ("sensitive") birds that try to over winter will become greater risk takers. This works great in my/our favour. I feed my Orioles on my window ledge feeder witch just happens to be to close for comfort for the starlings. From time to time I have to discourage a couple of brave ones but rarely. My window feeder is about 3' long and I've placed 3 pins (nails, wire coat hangers) along its outside edge. This can be a very completive area for food but has allowed for a more important finding for survival of the weaker birds. I have limited food supplies available to me to offer these birds so the best hands down for me has been Globe Grapes. Kept in the freezer until needed for the feeders. Not only does this make it easier to keep the pricey food on hand (I just finished off the last of my 10 month old stock), it eliminates waste and most importantly the birds prefer the sweeter (pre frozen and thawed in some warm water) grapes. After a couple of days of feeding the skins of the grapes gather at the base of the nails and I use to clean these off to make room for more grapes. I've been able to study the interaction of the birds feeding on my feeders for quite some time now and find that if you allow the grape skins to build up it reduces the food protection and aggression towards each other. Notice I said reduce! Now allowing the skins build up has a couple of benefits. It ensures that there's always a food source for all the birds. While the grapes are fresh there tends to be some competition but as the fruit are reduced skins the aggressive birds tend to allow the submissive birds to feed on the leftovers, witch are as nutritious. Because the skins are always available there's always a food source this lessens the need/desire to protect it. This works out great If the birds arrive early or you're late getting the food out. The window feeder works well for us also because it allows access to feed in any and all weather. We also have an Oriole nectar feeder hung outside the window that I put in a (tepid) grape juice and sugar mix (starlings don't bother this). Another benefit of the up close feeding is that you can really study each bird to see how it's doing with all the stress' our cold winter present. Sorry for the long response Hope some of this info is helpful. All the Best Tom K Canso ----- Original Message ----- From: Susann Myers To: Gayle MacLean ; naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 12:49 AM Subject: [NatureNS] Re: Baltimore Oriole Update Hi, Gayle. These problems sound so familiar to me, I do sympathize. It looked from the photos you posted the other day as if the brighter oriole is a first-winter male and the other is a first-winter female, and the male appeared to be driving the female away. I have also found in my yard that the males are more aggressive about the food, and the females have a lower winter survival rate. It is likely the pressure from the starlings that is making the oriole so aggressive. I solved this problem by presenting the mealworms in enough locations at the same time (inside cages) that the orioles all got an opportunity to have their share. I also put the mealworms out at the same time each day, at first light, so all the orioles were there waiting for them at once. It took some juggling, and I had to make adjustments occasionally to keep things balanced, but it did work. The females tended to all use certain feeding cages, and the males the others (the preferred locations, closest to shrubbery). A friend told me one day, when I complained about the latest adjustment, that I couldn't micromanage them, but in fact that was just what it took - watching each day to see which orioles showed up, how many went to each cage etc., and making adjustments accordingly in the number of feeding locations, the number of mealworms in each one, and so on. I have lots of the wire netting if you want to pick some up and make a second enclosure (I have loaned out the second cage like yours, for the present). If you make it round in shape, it only takes a few minutes and a few twist ties to turn the wiring into a cage - I'd be glad to help. I also found that the orioles showed up just a few minutes earlier than the starlings in the morning, so at dawn I could put one dish of mealworms on top of each cage, and one inside, and the orioles got them all. but my ratio of orioles to starlings was higher, the orioles formed a gang of their own, so that might not work for you. Have you tried a 50/50 mixture of grape jelly and melted soft suet (my recipe)? It is very appealing to the orioles - smells like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich when it's still warm, and covers all the major food groups! If you put some in each of 2 feeding cages, and the cages were far enough apart, both orioles should get some. I'll be home on the week-end, but if you want to come before that and take some netting, just help yourself. If you let me know you were coming, I could leave out the wire cutters. Hope this helps, Susann ----- Original Message ----- From: Gayle MacLean To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca ; nsbird list Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 8:45 PM Subject: [NS-RBA] re: [NatureNS] red winged blackbird/Baltimore Oriole Update Sorry, you weren't able to photograph the RW Blackbird Was at Sullivan's Pond today, did not see the American Coots, but did see 1 Eurasian Wigeon. The 2 Baltimore Orioles that have been visiting my feeders seem to be doing reasonably alright, here at my backyard feeders. I am a little concerned about one though. One is very aggressive-- and whenever possible, blocks the other from entering the enclosure (where I present the mealworms) at all. Am now offering 2 mealworm trays twice a day when possible (the J.O.B. does get in the way, however, no matter how early in the day), one in the enclosure & one in the open on a large rock nearby, but competed for, & usually, won over, by the Starlings that eat absolutely, EVERYTHING! I do think one may be starving (despite the concord grape & homemade suet, I've been offering) as I did see bright