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Index of Subjects Hi Steve & All, Aug 4, 2010 With regard to snails on milkweed I paste the following--- START OF PASTE\\\\\\ Dear All, Aug 22, 2005 While out for a short walk we happened to notice snails on Milkweed leaves; both under and upper sides with up to 10 snails per plant being not uncommon. I could see no evidence of feeding. These snails were <1 cm-long and the last whorl represented about 98% of the volume. END OF PASTE\\\\\\\\\\ These were tentatively identified by Derek Davis (Sept 5 e-mail) as Cochlicopa lubrica; firm ID pending receipt of sample. So I collected some on Sept 9, 2005 (S40) and left a sample at the museum Aug 16, 2006. But have not heard back. Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Shaw" <srshaw@dal.ca> To: <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Monarchs Emerge > Hi Larry, > Related to this, we were out u-picking high bush blueberries in the > valley (up near you, Cambridge) ~3 days ago, at the end of which I > checked out the long 'hedge' side of the farmer's field, looking for > insects. Along this entire waste stretch there were just two isolated > smallish milkweed plants growing together (no pods) one of which had > two Monarch caterpillars on it, each about 3 cm long. Not sure how big > they get. On the way back, about 1 km away on the same side road, was > an apparently unused grassy field the edge of which was being invaded > by a large stand (~300) of more mature-looking milkweed plants, many > with pods, some of which had burst. We spent about 10 minutes scouting > this patch but saw no caterpillars or signs of leaf-eating at all. > Perhaps the Monarch adults only lay eggs on youngish, unpodded milkweed > plants which perhaps form a better food source? Or perhaps just pot > luck in finding any caterpillars at all, from what you say? > > The only thing we did see on this patch of milkweed plants quite > commonly were snails ~1cm long, immobile on the leaves, on either > surface. This would have been about 6 PM and it looked as if they > were living there on the leaves in the daytime and so presumably were > eating them. Does anyone know if there is a snail species that is > able to feed on this plant and whether it uses the alkaloids for > defence, or can simply withstand them, or metabolize them into > something harmless? These were small pale brown snails -- they showed > no warning colours that might advertize the use of such toxins by the > snail to potential predators. > Steve > (Halifax) > > On 4-Aug-10, at 11:14 AM, Larry Bogan wrote: > >> We have two new Monarchs out of their chrysalises this week. >> >> We have an additional five other caterpillars that may become >> Monarches plus three pupae. Our search of the Common Milkweed in our >> field revealed very few caterpillars or eggs. This year we have a huge >> population of spiders, lady-bird beetles, ants, and earwigs in the >> milkweed that I think had been predating the eggs etc. >> >> Because of this we have been protecting the eggs, and feeding the >> resultant caterpillars until they pupate. >> >> We have had, at most, three breeding Monarchs at any one time but have >> seen them mating at least twice. Since the milkweed is a noctious weed >> we have to control its spread. The milkweed is producing seed pods at >> the moment and we need to stop seed from spreading so have had to mow >> the field, keeping only small patches for food. >> Has anyone else seen Monarch emerging? >> >> Larry Bogan >> Cambridge, Kings Co. >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3049 - Release Date: 08/03/10 11:22:00
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