[NatureNS] herbicide spray zones

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I tried not to respond James but just can't help myself because I =
litterly hate herbicide spraying. I have been in and photographed spray =
zones for some time/years and you will notice that not even the deer =
will enter these death zones let alone birds.( 10 years and it will =
somewhat be back) No doubt Monsanto makes this crap, search youtube for =
The World According to Monsanto and watch. They study but only to what =
interests them, not the lichens, the bugs that live in the moss/trees, =
their eggs or birds/eggs for that matter. For the simply savings of a =
man with a bush saw they totally remake the biodiversity of our land and =
have no idea the full consequences of what they do. Note that =
Environment Canada is a joke, a pure and simple joke, permit pushers, =
permits to destroy and destruct.

The simple fact no critters go into or live in these spray zones is =
enough for me, all the tests and bullcrap they shove means nothing, =
zilch. I have a friend from St Louis whose father & uncle both worked =
for Monsanto, tells of wells and ground water poisoned in the USA with =
roundup from farmers spraying the crap on genetic modified crops over =
the years. Environment Canada, ARGH, if I had my way there would be =
heads rolling and jobs lost. Spraying our forests with herbicides =
turning them into death zones and telling us it doesn't hurt anything. =
Yea right, one spray zone sign stated not to eat the berries after =
sprayed, one sign on a spray zone the size of 10 football fields and =
never once have I heard of bears or grouse reading. They give buffer =
zones, why? Why give buffer zones from water if it's so darn safe?

My name is Darrell Abolit and I HATE spray zones.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: James Hirtle=20
  To: Naturens Naturens=20
  Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 10:49 PM
  Subject: [NatureNS] Canadian Breeding Bird Survey


  Hi all:
  =20
  I did my Candian Breeding Bird Survey today which starts at Jordan =
Falls, goes through Shelburne and up into Welshtown.  There are fifty =
stops at three minutes a piece.  Of note:  Other than Palm, Magnolia, =
and Common Yellowthroats, other warblers were scarce.  There were very =
few black & whites. This year there was an almost total absence of =
American redstarts and few blackburnians.  Chestnut-sided warblers and =
yellow warblers were scarce.  I did find black-throated blue warblers at =
six locations, although three locations were not at sloted stops.  There =
were no black-throated green warblers at all this year.  Of note, there =
were more swallows on the route this year then ever before.  Barn =
swallow numbers were up and there were three locations where two =
locations where they were nesting under bridges and one in a culvert.  =
Ruby-throated hummingbirds were low with only one, when I would normally =
have many.  Hermit thrushes were only one quarter of what I've had in =
the past on this route.  Normally there are 50-60 or more and we only =
had 20 on the count route.  A yellow-bellied flycatcher was new to the =
route for me.
  =20
  I was upset initially when I saw a sign saying that Environment Canada =
had granted the Nova Scotia Power Corporation permission to spray the =
herbicide Tordon 101 on May 25.  That is until I researched the product. =
 It seems safe enough and also appears to be environmentally friendly.  =
It says that around yards or waterways that a buffer zone was left.  It =
also states that there are no adverse affects on animals or insects and =
that if we were to ingest it we could live for 60 years without harm. =20
  =20
  Having read the pros for the herbicide it is odd that in areas where =
it was applied I found more or less dead zones.  Lots of activity =
occurred around waterways, except for one that every other year was =
always productive. At that one a swamp sparrow that always shows up was =
well in away from the road. Warblers usually at that location were =
totally absent as were other species.  Lots of activity remained around =
houses.  Along the corridor of spraying there were no birds whatsoever.  =
During other years lots of activity occurred along those stretches, but =
overall this year two or three species were heard or seen and these =
species were always in the area deep in on the opposite side of the =
road.  Along these corridors where normally lots of warbler activity =
should be there was a vacancy.  I have no proof that the two are =
directly linked, it just seems odd. =20
  =20
  James R. Hirtle
  Bayport
  =20


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<DIV><EM><FONT size=3D4 face=3D"Times New Roman">I tried not to respond =
James but=20
just can't help myself because I litterly hate herbicide spraying. I =
have been=20
in and photographed spray zones for some time/years and you will notice =
that not=20
even the deer will enter these death zones let alone birds.( 10 years =
and it=20
will somewhat be back)&nbsp;No doubt Monsanto makes this =
crap,&nbsp;search=20
youtube for&nbsp;The World According to Monsanto and watch. They study =
but only=20
to what interests them, not the lichens, the bugs that live in the =
moss/trees,=20
their eggs or birds/eggs for that matter. For the simply savings of a =
man with a=20
bush saw they totally remake the biodiversity of our land and have no =
idea the=20
full consequences of what they do. Note that Environment Canada is a =
joke, a=20
pure and simple joke, permit pushers, permits to destroy and=20
destruct.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT size=3D4 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"></FONT></EM>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT size=3D4 face=3D"Times New Roman">The simple fact no =
critters go into=20
or live in these spray zones is enough for me, all the tests and =
bullcrap they=20
shove means nothing, zilch. I have a friend from St Louis whose father =
&amp;=20
uncle both worked for Monsanto, tells of wells and ground water poisoned =
in the=20
USA with roundup from farmers spraying the crap on genetic modified =
crops over=20
the years. Environment Canada, ARGH, if I had my way there would be =
heads=20
rolling and jobs lost. Spraying our forests with herbicides turning them =
into=20
death zones and telling us it doesn't hurt anything. Yea right, one =
spray zone=20
sign stated not to eat the berries after sprayed, one sign on a spray =
zone the=20
size of 10&nbsp;football fields and never once have I heard of bears or =
grouse=20
reading. They give buffer zones, why? Why give buffer zones from water =
if it's=20
so darn safe?</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT size=3D4 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"></FONT></EM>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT size=3D4 face=3D"Times New Roman">My name is Darrell =
Abolit=20
and&nbsp;I HATE spray zones.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Djrhbirder@hotmail.com =
href=3D"mailto:jrhbirder@hotmail.com">James=20
  Hirtle</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
  href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">Naturens Naturens</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 12, 2010 =
10:49=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NatureNS] Canadian =
Breeding=20
  Bird Survey</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi all:<BR>&nbsp;<BR>I did my Candian Breeding Bird =
Survey=20
  today which starts at Jordan Falls, goes through Shelburne and up into =

  Welshtown.&nbsp; There are fifty stops at three minutes a piece.&nbsp; =
Of=20
  note:&nbsp; Other than Palm, Magnolia, and Common Yellowthroats, other =

  warblers were scarce.&nbsp;&nbsp;There were very =
few&nbsp;black&nbsp;&amp;=20
  whites. This year there was an almost total absence of American =
redstarts and=20
  few blackburnians.&nbsp; Chestnut-sided warblers and yellow warblers =
were=20
  scarce.&nbsp; I did find black-throated blue warblers at six =
locations,=20
  although three locations were not at sloted stops.&nbsp; There were no =

  black-throated green warblers at all this year.&nbsp; Of note, there =
were more=20
  swallows on the route this year then ever before.&nbsp; Barn swallow =
numbers=20
  were up and there were three locations where two locations where they =
were=20
  nesting under bridges and one in a culvert.&nbsp; Ruby-throated =
hummingbirds=20
  were low with only one, when I would normally have many.&nbsp; Hermit =
thrushes=20
  were only one quarter of what I've had in the past on this =
route.&nbsp;=20
  Normally there are 50-60 or more and we only had 20 on the count =
route.&nbsp;=20
  A yellow-bellied flycatcher was new to the route for =
me.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>I was=20
  upset initially when I saw a sign saying that Environment Canada had =
granted=20
  the Nova Scotia Power Corporation permission to spray the herbicide =
Tordon 101=20
  on May 25.&nbsp; That is until I researched the product.&nbsp; It =
seems safe=20
  enough and also appears to be environmentally friendly.&nbsp; It says =
that=20
  around yards or waterways that a buffer zone was left.&nbsp; It also =
states=20
  that there are no adverse affects on animals or insects and that if we =
were to=20
  ingest it we could live for 60 years without harm.&nbsp; =
<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Having=20
  read the pros for the herbicide it is odd that in areas where it was =
applied I=20
  found more or less dead zones.&nbsp; Lots of activity occurred around=20
  waterways, except for one&nbsp;that every other year was always=20
  productive.&nbsp;At that one a swamp sparrow that always shows up was =
well in=20
  away from the road.&nbsp;Warblers usually at that location were =
totally absent=20
  as were other species.&nbsp; Lots of activity remained around =
houses.&nbsp;=20
  Along the corridor of spraying there were no birds whatsoever.&nbsp; =
During=20
  other years lots of activity occurred along those stretches, but =
overall this=20
  year two or three species were heard or seen and these species were =
always in=20
  the area deep in on the opposite side of the road.&nbsp; Along these =
corridors=20
  where normally lots of warbler activity should be there was a =
vacancy.&nbsp; I=20
  have no proof that the two are directly linked, it just seems =
odd.&nbsp;=20
  <BR>&nbsp;<BR>James R. Hirtle<BR>Bayport<BR>&nbsp;<BR><BR>
  <HR>
  Enter for a chance to get your town photo on Bing.ca! <A=20
  href=3D"http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=3D9734383" =
target=3D_new>Submit a Photo Now!=20
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