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Index of Subjects --0016e6541d8860dec104876f5f14 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Could be my usual shoot-from-the-hip approach however I think that siphon thing was working quite a bit, and they could continue to do that and improve it and employ many more of the same thing. If the 2 governments, US & UK, treated this like they did WW II and the bomb, they could fix it in short order. I don't think anything short of declaring war will work -- war on the oil at its source (the broken seam/well) and wherever it went (surely they can figure a way to siphon off 5-mile-by-8-mile-by-300'-thick submerged islands of oil, surely they can deploy troops to those currently empty-of-helping-hands beaches being destroyed, etc). How else to cut through the politics, lawyers, and red tape? Oh the lawyers, imagine, nobody can do a thing without five signed forms. All these ideas and technology already developed and ready to go (or already there) but no permission to use them. Time for BP to lose the rays of its flag like Japan after WW II, have its assets seized by the UK/US.... time to fight (a good way) for so many lives... I'm ready to march on Washington, Ottawa, wherever, or, better yet, sponsor people who already live in those places and who would not go otherwise to represent me in my stead (so I don't have to use more oil/gas to get there myself). Totally all my own unscientific opinion... for whatever it's worth :! --Suzanne On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 2:56 PM, David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com>wrote: > Hi Suzanne & All, May 25, 2010 > Working at 1.5 km with complications of murky water and methane ice > don't make it easy but I get the impression that the engineers involved > either lack both imagination and know-how or they have been told > (quietly) to not try too hard; from a BP standpoint, compensation to the few > who get past the lawyers may cost less than containment. > > This may be incorrect, but dispersing the oil with wetting agents would > (to me) logically increase toxicity by increasing the water/oil contact > surface. So I wonder. Does use of dispersants mean that toxicity is not > increased or does it mean that the problem (as viewed superficially) seems > to be lessened ? > > This event may stall or slow deep oil activity. > > Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Suzanne Townsend <suzanne.townsend@gmail.com> > *To:* naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 25, 2010 10:19 AM > *Subject:* [NatureNS] Birds, Dolphins, etc > > Is anyone getting mad enough yet to march on Washington, London, and BP to > get off the red tape and go suck up the mess? I don't even see anything > about it in the paper today. It's like it's not important enough? > > > http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=over-300-dead-birds-are-likely > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2895 - Release Date: 05/25/10 > 03:26:00 > > --0016e6541d8860dec104876f5f14 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div>Could be my usual shoot-from-the-hip approach however I think that sip= hon thing was working quite a bit, and they could continue to do that and i= mprove it and employ many more of the same thing. </div> <div>=A0</div> <div>If the 2 governments, US & UK, treated this like they did WW II an= d the bomb, they could fix it in short order. I don't think anything sh= ort of declaring war will work -- war on the oil at its source (the broken = seam/well) and wherever it went (surely they can figure a way to siphon off= 5-mile-by-8-mile-by-300'-thick submerged islands of oil, surely they c= an deploy troops to those currently empty-of-helping-hands beaches being de= stroyed, etc). How else to cut through the politics, lawyers, and red tape?= Oh the lawyers, imagine, nobody can do a thing without five signed forms. = All these ideas and technology already developed and ready to go (or alread= y there) but no permission to use them. </div> <div>=A0</div> <div>Time for BP to lose the rays of its flag like Japan after WW II, have = its assets seized by the UK/US.... time to fight (a good way) for so many l= ives...</div> <div>=A0</div> <div>I'm ready to march on Washington, Ottawa, wherever, or, better yet= , sponsor people who already live in those places and who would not go othe= rwise to represent me in my stead (so I don't have to use more oil/gas = to get there myself). </div> <div>=A0</div> <div>Totally all my own unscientific opinion... for whatever it's worth= :!</div> <div>--Suzanne</div> <div><br><br>=A0</div> <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 2:56 PM, David & Ali= son Webster <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:dwebster@glinx.com">dwe= bster@glinx.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0= px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"> <div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff"> <div><font size=3D"1">Hi Suzanne & All,=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 = =A0=A0=A0 May 25, 2010</font></div> <div><font size=3D"1">=A0=A0=A0 Working at 1.5 km with complications of mur= ky water and methane ice don't make it easy but I get the impression th= at the engineers involved either=A0lack both=A0imagination=A0and know-how o= r they have been told (quietly)=A0to not try too hard; from a BP standpoint= , compensation to the few who get past the lawyers may cost less than conta= inment.=A0 </font></div> <div><font size=3D"1"></font>=A0</div> <div><font size=3D"1">=A0=A0=A0 This may be incorrect, but dispersing the o= il with wetting agents would (to me) logically increase toxicity by increas= ing the water/oil contact surface. So I wonder. Does use of dispersants mea= n that toxicity is not increased or does it mean that the problem (as viewe= d superficially) seems to be lessened ?</font></div> <div><font size=3D"1"></font>=A0</div> <div><font size=3D"1">=A0=A0=A0 This event may stall or slow=A0deep oil act= ivity.</font></div> <div><font size=3D"1"></font>=A0</div> <div><font size=3D"1">Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville</font></div> <div><font size=3D"1">=A0=A0=A0 </font></div> <div><font size=3D"1">=A0=A0=A0 </font></div> <blockquote style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5p= x; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <div> <div></div> <div class=3D"h5"> <div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div> <div style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial"><b>From:</b> <a title= =3D"suzanne.townsend@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:suzanne.townsend@gmail.com" = target=3D"_blank">Suzanne Townsend</a> </div> <div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"naturens@chebucto.ns= .ca" href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank">naturens@che= bucto.ns.ca</a> </div> <div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 25, 2010 10:19 AM= </div> <div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> [NatureNS] Birds, Dolphins,= etc</div> <div><br></div> <div>Is anyone getting mad enough yet to march on Washington, London, and B= P to get off the red tape and go suck up the mess? I don't even see any= thing about it in the paper today. It's like it's not important eno= ugh? </div> <div>=A0</div> <div><a href=3D"http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=3Dover-300= -dead-birds-are-likely" target=3D"_blank">http://www.scientificamerican.com= /article.cfm?id=3Dover-300-dead-birds-are-likely</a></div> <div>=A0</div> <div>=A0</div> <div>=A0</div> <div>=A0</div></div></div> <p> <hr> <div class=3D"im"> <p></p><br>No virus found in this incoming message.<br>Checked by AVG - <a = href=3D"http://www.avg.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.avg.com</a> <br>Version:= 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2895 - Release Date: 05/25/10 03:26:00<b= r> </div> <p></p></p></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br> --0016e6541d8860dec104876f5f14--
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