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wrote:</DIV> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01CACF6D.00CD2630 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fluorescent Bulbs - we replaced our incandescent bulbs with fluorescent bulbs as they burned out since they first became available. We have = only replaced a couple of them in the last 10 years and that was recently. = For people who are having problems with them, I have to wonder if you may = have old fixtures that have problems. =20 Marian Fulton =20 -----Original Message----- From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca = [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Christopher Majka Sent: 29 March 2010 14:53 To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Earth Hour success?; long =20 Hi Dave, =20 On 29-Mar-10, at 2:16 PM, David & Alison Webster wrote: Hi Wayne & All, March 28, 2010 Pogo, in about 1957, said it long before limits to growth and said = it best, while looking our over a swamp fouled with tires, auto batteries, cans, bottles, etc.; "I have seen the enemy and he is us." =20 These earth hour sessions may have some positive consequences but I wonder if earlier sessions are responsible in part for the idea that incandescent bulbs are somehow undesirable. [In our latitude nearly all = of the heat generated by incandescent bulbs is welcome; apart from 15-20 evenings per year.] In 2007 I calculated our estimated annual usage of = power for lights as a percentage of average residential power use; a whopping = 4.5% ! =20 Has the message been corrupted by simplistic interpretation and the desire, in some quarters, to finally find a market for fluorescent bulbs = ? =20 Out previous government established Conserve NS, partly to push fluorescent bulbs and our present government plans to (perhaps has) move this function to a private agency. One effective way to conserve energy would have been to turn off the lights at Conserve NS and spin-offs; permanently. =20 Rather that pull the main switch for one hour per year, surely the message would be more convincing if one were to use power sparingly for = some 8700 hours per year. =20 I take your point, however, I wouldn't be so quick to discount the importance of symbolic acts. No one associated with Earth Hour pretends = that turning off/down the power for one hour is the answer to climate change. = The message is intended to both: =20 1. Draw attention to the issue of wasteful use of resources (such as = power) on the part of the public, thereby contributing to making people = consider (and perhaps even act upon that consideration!) what they could do more intelligently and frugally over the remaining 8,759 hours; and =20 2. Collectively exhibit that broad public support (i.e., translatable to electoral support) that will help galvanize or empower politicians to = take similar policy and legislative steps. =20 Also, I don't think the energy wasted with incandescent bulbs is so = easily dismissed (a rather poor way to heat a house, I should think ... ;->). I recently saw the results of a study commissioned in the USA (New York = sate, I believe, but it could have been Massachusetts) on the savings that = would be realized by changing all the light bulbs in public buildings = (hospitals, police stations, government office buildings, etc.) from incandescent to fluorescent. It worked out to the energy equivalent of removing several thousands of vehicles from the road (I can't put my fingers on the = story, and hence the exact number). =20 As for fluorescent bulbs, when I bought my present house ~ 8 years ago I installed them wherever possible throughout the house. I bought 2-3 = spares as well, to have on hand when they needed replacing. In that time I = haven't had to change a single one and my spares gather dust in the basement ... = ;-> =20 Cheers! =20 Chris =20 Christopher Majka Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada B3H 2G5 c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca =20 Nothing in life is difficult except putting your pants on over your = head. - Nikita Khrushchev =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01CACF6D.00CD2630 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 10 (filtered)"> <style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Verdana; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} span.EmailStyle20 {font-family:Arial; color:navy;} @page Section1 {size:612.0pt 792.0pt; margin:70.9pt 70.9pt 70.9pt 70.9pt;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dblue style=3D'word-wrap: = break-word;-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space'> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Fluorescent Bulbs – we = replaced our incandescent bulbs with fluorescent bulbs as they burned out since they = first became available. We have only replaced a couple of them in the last 10 = years and that was recently. For people who are having problems with = them, I have to wonder if you may have old fixtures that have = problems.</span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Marian Fulton</span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 = face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original = Message-----<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] = <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Christopher Majka<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 29 March 2010 = 14:53<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> = naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NatureNS] = Earth Hour success?; long</span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Hi = Dave,</span></font></p> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p> <div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>On 29-Mar-10, = at 2:16 PM, David & Alison Webster wrote:</span></font></p> </div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><br> <br> </span></font></p> <span style=3D'orphans: 2;text-align:auto;widows: = 2;-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: = none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: = 0px;word-spacing: 0px'> <div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff"> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Hi Wayne & All, March 28, 2010</span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> &nbs= p; Pogo, in about 1957, said it long before<span = class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><em><i><font face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial'>limits to = growth</span></font></i></em> and said it best, while looking our over a swamp fouled with tires, auto batteries, cans, bottles, etc.; "I have seen the enemy and he is = us."</span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblack face=3DVerdana><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> </span><= /font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> &nbs= p; These earth hour sessions may have some positive consequences but I = wonder if earlier sessions are responsible in part for the idea that incandescent = bulbs are somehow undesirable. [In our latitude nearly all of the heat = generated by incandescent bulbs is welcome; apart from 15-20 evenings per = year.] In 2007 I calculated our estimated annual usage of power for lights as a percentage of average residential power use; a whopping 4.5% = !</span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblack face=3DVerdana><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> </span><= /font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> &nbs= p; Has the message been corrupted by simplistic interpretation and the = desire, in some quarters, to finally find a market for fluorescent bulbs = ?</span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblack face=3DVerdana><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> </span><= /font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> &nbs= p; Out previous government established Conserve NS, partly to push fluorescent = bulbs and our present government plans to (perhaps has) move this function to a private agency. One effective way to conserve energy would have been to turn off the lights at Conserve NS = and spin-offs; permanently.</span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblack face=3DVerdana><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> </span><= /font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> &nbs= p; Rather that pull the main switch for one hour per year, surely the message would be more convincing if one were to use power sparingly for some 8700 hours per year.</span></font></p> </div> </div> </div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'></span> </span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I take your = point, however, I wouldn't be so quick to discount the importance of symbolic = acts. No one associated with Earth Hour pretends that turning off/down the power = for one hour is the answer to climate change. The message is intended to = both:</span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>1. Draw = attention to the issue of wasteful use of resources (such as power) on the part of the = public, thereby contributing to making people consider (and perhaps even act = upon that consideration!) what they could do more intelligently and frugally over = the remaining 8,759 hours; and</span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>2. = Collectively exhibit that broad public support (i.e., translatable to electoral support) that = will help galvanize or empower politicians to take similar policy and = legislative steps.</span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Also, I don't = think the energy wasted with incandescent bulbs is so easily dismissed (a rather = poor way to heat a house, I should think ... ;->). I recently saw the results = of a study commissioned in the USA (New York sate, I believe, but it could = have been Massachusetts) on the savings that would be realized by changing all the = light bulbs in public buildings (hospitals, police stations, government office buildings, etc.) from incandescent to fluorescent. It worked out to the = energy equivalent of removing several thousands of vehicles from the road (I = can't put my fingers on the story, and hence the exact number).</span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>As = for fluorescent bulbs, when I bought my present house ~ 8 years ago I installed them = wherever possible throughout the house. I bought 2-3 spares as well, to have on = hand when they needed replacing. In that time I haven't had to change a = single one and my spares gather dust in the basement ... ;-></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Cheers!</span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Chris</span></font></p> </div> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left: 36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p> <span style=3D'orphans: 2;text-align:auto;widows: = 2;-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: = none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: = 0px;word-spacing: 0px'><span style=3D'orphans: 2;widows: = 2;-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: = none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: = 0px;word-spacing: 0px'> <div apple-content-edited=3Dtrue> <div style=3D'word-wrap: break-word;-webkit-nbsp-mode: = space;-webkit-line-break: after-white-space'> <div style=3D'word-wrap: break-word;-webkit-nbsp-mode: = space;-webkit-line-break: after-white-space'> <div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D4 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;color:black'>Christopher Majka</span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D4 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;color:black'>Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada B3H 2G5</span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D4 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;color:black'><a href=3D"mailto:c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca">c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca</a></span= ></font></p> </div> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D4 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;color:black'> </span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><i><font size=3D4 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;color:black;font-style: italic'>Nothing in life is difficult except putting your pants on over = your head.</span></font></i><font size=3D4 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:13.5pt; color:black'> - Nikita Khrushchev</span></font></p> </div> </div> </div> </div> </span> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p> </span></div> </body> </html> ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01CACF6D.00CD2630--
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