[NatureNS] Melanistic Red Squirrel

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Hello Chris,

I agree, which is why I used the word "could", though in hindsight, not
sufficiently explicit.

Also, should one not have been more likely to miss the groundhog than the
chipmunk?

All the best,

Ron

2010/3/24 Christopher Majka <c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca>

> Hi Ron,
>
> On 24-Mar-10, at 9:27 PM, Ronald Arsenault wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have seen the name "Pine Squirrel" given in some works as an alternate
> English common name to designate not only the Red Squirrel, but also
> Douglas' Squirrel (Tamiasciurus douglasii) found in Canada only in BC.
>
> The Groundhog (Marmota monax) is in the same family (Scuiridae) as the
> other four and thus could be considered Nova Scotia's fifth "squirrel".
>
>
> Depending on how one interprets the term "squirrel" the groundhog could
> indeed be included. A better candidate is actually the Eastern Chipmunk (*Tamias
> striatus*), which is also in the Scuiridae and is closer to what the lay
> person considers a "squirrel". After all, it would be odd if we all went out
> on February 2 to find out what Shubenacadie Sam had to say about the weather
> on "Squirrel Day". ;->
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
>
>
> Ron
>
> Ronald G. Arsenault
> Memramcook, N.B.
>
> 2010/3/24 Terry Boswell <ta_boz@hotmail.com>
>
>>  Chris,
>>
>> You made me do a little digging. You were right! Being European, I
>> was assuming the North American Red Squirrel (*Tamiasciurus hudsonicus) *was
>> the* "*Pine Squirrel" as I had heard the term being used locally. I am
>> more familiar with the European Red Squirrel (*sciurus vulgaris*) and
>> jumped to a conclusion that the one in the photo could not be the same.
>> Thanks for setting me straight.
>>
>> Terry
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> From: c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca
>>
>> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Melanistic Red Squirrel
>> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:38:01 -0300
>>
>>
>> Hi Terry,
>>
>> There is no such species as a "pine squirrel" in Canada.
>>
>> In Nova Scotia, there are four species of squirrels:
>>
>> 1. Northern Flying Squirrel (*Glaucomys sabrinus*)
>> 2. Southern Flying Squirrel (*Glaucomys volens*)
>> 3. Grey Squirrel (*Sciurus carolinensis*)
>> 4. Red Squirrel (*Tamiasciurus hudsonicus*)
>>
>> The red squirrel is a very variable species with fifteen subspecies in
>> Canada, however only one of these, *Tamiasciurus hudsonicus gymnicus*, is
>> found in the Maritime Provinces. There are also occasional albino, partial
>> albino, and melanistic individuals like the one pictured in Bernard's
>> photos.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> All the best.
>>
>>  On 24-Mar-10, at 6:17 PM, Terry Boswell wrote:
>>
>>  I think that this is a melanistic Pine Squirrel and not a melanistic Red
>> Squirrel. The two are quite different in shape and the Pine Squirrel is the
>> local resident.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Terry Boswell
>>
>> > Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 07:20:50 -0300
>> > From: hamst@xplornet.com
>> > To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>> > Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Melanistic Red Squirrel
>> >
>> > Thanks Bernard, I really wanted to see those pictures!
>> >
>> > On 22/03/10 11:32 PM, bernard burke wrote:
>> > > Rita and I took a drive to the Nine Mile River area today (Monday,
>> March 22nd) to see if we could get a look at the melanistic (black) red
>> squirrel recently mentioned by Annabelle Thiebaux. After a short period of
>> time we were able to get good looks and photos of this unique squirrel, some
>> of which can be seen here:
>> > >
>> > >
>> http://bernieb.smugmug.com/Nature/Melanistic-Black-Red-Squirrel/11593067_gobxb#816960113_GjgYz
>> > >
>> > > Many thanks to Annabelle and her husband for their hospitality.
>> > >
>> > > Bernard Burke
>> > > blburke@ns.sympatico.ca
>> > > Dartmouth
>>
>> ------------------------------
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>>
>>
>>
>> Christopher Majka
>> Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada B3H 2G5
>> c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca
>>
>> *In theory there's no difference between theory and practice. In practice
>> there is.* - Yogi Berra
>>
>>
>>
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Hello Chris,<div><br></div><div>I agree, which is why I used the word &quot=
;could&quot;, though in hindsight, not sufficiently explicit.</div><div><br=
></div><div>Also, should one not have been more likely to miss the groundho=
g than the chipmunk?</div>
<div><br></div><div>All the best,</div><div><br></div><div>Ron<br><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">2010/3/24 Christopher Majka <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca">c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca</a>&gt;</sp=
an><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Hi Ron,=
<div><br><div><div class=3D"im"><div>On 24-Mar-10, at 9:27 PM, Ronald Arsen=
ault wrote:</div>
<br><blockquote type=3D"cite">Hello,<div><br></div><div>I have seen the nam=
e &quot;Pine Squirrel&quot; given in some works as an alternate English com=
mon name to designate not only the Red Squirrel, but also Douglas&#39; Squi=
rrel (Tamiasciurus douglasii) found in Canada only in BC.</div>
 <div><br></div><div>The Groundhog (Marmota monax) is in the same family (S=
cuiridae) as the other four and thus could be considered Nova Scotia&#39;s=
=A0fifth=A0&quot;squirrel&quot;.</div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><di=
v>
Depending on how one interprets the term &quot;squirrel&quot; the groundhog=
 could indeed be included. A better candidate is actually the Eastern Chipm=
unk (<i>Tamias striatus</i>), which is also in the Scuiridae and is closer =
to what the lay person considers a &quot;squirrel&quot;. After all, it woul=
d be odd if we all went out on February 2 to find out what Shubenacadie Sam=
 had to say about the weather on &quot;Squirrel Day&quot;. ;-&gt;</div>
<div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>Chris</div><div><div><=
/div><div class=3D"h5"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><br></div><div>Ro=
n</div><div><br></div> <div>Ronald G. Arsenault<br>Memramcook, N.B.<br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2010/3/24 Terry Boswell <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:ta_boz@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank">ta_boz@hotmail.com</a=
>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e=
x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
 <div> Chris,<br> =A0<br> You made me do a little digging. You were right!=
=A0Being European, I was=A0assuming the North American Red Squirrel (<em>Ta=
miasciurus hudsonicus) </em>was the<em> &quot;</em>Pine Squirrel&quot; as I=
=A0had heard the term=A0being used locally. I am more familiar with=A0the E=
uropean Red Squirrel (<em>sciurus vulgaris</em>) and jumped to a conclusion=
 that the one in the photo could not be the same. Thanks for setting me str=
aight.=A0<br>
 =A0<br> Terry<br>=A0<br> <hr> From: <a href=3D"mailto:c.majka@ns.sympatico=
.ca" target=3D"_blank">c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca</a><div><br>To: <a href=3D"m=
ailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a=
><br>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Melanistic Red Squirrel<br>
 </div>Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:38:01 -0300<div><div></div><div><br><br>Hi=
 Terry, <div><br></div> <div>There is no such species as a &quot;pine squir=
rel&quot; in Canada.=A0</div> <div><br></div> <div>In Nova Scotia, there ar=
e four species of squirrels:</div>
 <div><br></div> <div>1. Northern Flying Squirrel (<i>Glaucomys sabrinus</i=
>)</div> <div>2. Southern Flying Squirrel (<i>Glaucomys volens</i>)</div> <=
div>3. Grey Squirrel (<i>Sciurus carolinensis</i>)</div> <div>4. Red Squirr=
el (<i>Tamiasciurus hudsonicus</i>)</div>
 <div><br></div> <div>The red squirrel is a very variable species with fift=
een subspecies in Canada, however only one of these,=A0<i>Tamiasciurus huds=
onicus gymnicus</i>, is found in the Maritime Provinces. There are also occ=
asional albino, partial albino, and melanistic individuals like the one pic=
tured in Bernard&#39;s photos.</div>
 <div><br></div> <div>Cheers!</div> <div><br></div> <div>Chris</div> <div><=
br></div> <div>All the best.</div> <div><br> <div> <div>On 24-Mar-10, at 6:=
17 PM, Terry Boswell wrote:</div><br> <blockquote><span style=3D"word-spaci=
ng:0px;font:medium &#39;Times New Roman&#39;;text-transform:none;color:rgb(=
0,0,0);text-indent:0px;white-space:normal;letter-spacing:normal;border-coll=
apse:separate"> <div style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana">
I think that this is a melanistic Pine Squirrel and not a melanistic Red Sq=
uirrel. The two are quite different in shape and the Pine Squirrel is the l=
ocal resident.<br>=A0<br> Regards<br>=A0<br>Terry Boswell<br>=A0<br>&gt; Da=
te: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 07:20:50 -0300<br>
&gt; From:<span>=A0</span><a href=3D"mailto:hamst@xplornet.com" target=3D"_=
blank">hamst@xplornet.com</a><br>&gt; To:<span>=A0</span><a href=3D"mailto:=
naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a><br> =
&gt; Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Melanistic Red Squirrel<br>
&gt;<span>=A0</span><br>&gt; Thanks Bernard, I really wanted to see those p=
ictures!<br>&gt;<span>=A0</span><br>&gt; On 22/03/10 11:32 PM, bernard burk=
e wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; Rita and I took a drive to the Nine Mile River area t=
oday (Monday, March 22nd) to see if we could get a look at the melanistic (=
black) red squirrel recently mentioned by Annabelle Thiebaux. After a short=
 period of time we were able to get good looks and photos of this unique sq=
uirrel, some of which can be seen here:<br>
 &gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<span>=A0</span><a href=3D"http://bernieb.smugmug.co=
m/Nature/Melanistic-Black-Red-Squirrel/11593067_gobxb#816960113_GjgYz" targ=
et=3D"_blank">http://bernieb.smugmug.com/Nature/Melanistic-Black-Red-Squirr=
el/11593067_gobxb#816960113_GjgYz</a><br>
 &gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Many thanks to Annabelle and her husband for their =
hospitality.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Bernard Burke<br>&gt; &gt;<span>=A0<=
/span><a href=3D"mailto:blburke@ns.sympatico.ca" target=3D"_blank">blburke@=
ns.sympatico.ca</a><br>
 &gt; &gt; Dartmouth<br><br> <hr> Take your contacts everywhere.<span>=A0</=
span><a href=3D"http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=3D9712958" target=3D"_blank=
">Try Messenger for mobile</a></div></span></blockquote></div></div><br> <d=
iv><span style=3D"word-spacing:0px;font:medium &#39;Times New Roman&#39;;te=
xt-transform:none;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-indent:0px;white-space:normal;lette=
r-spacing:normal;border-collapse:separate"> <div style=3D"word-wrap:break-w=
ord">
 <div> <br> <br> <div>Christopher Majka</div> <div>Halifax, Nova Scotia, Ca=
nada B3H 2G5</div> <div><a href=3D"mailto:c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca" target=
=3D"_blank">c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca</a></div> <div>=A0</div><i>In theory th=
ere&#39;s no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.<=
/i><span>=A0</span>- Yogi Berra <br>
 <br></div></div></span></div><br> 		 	   		  <br><hr>Take your contacts ev=
erywhere.  <a href=3D"http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=3D9712958" target=3D"=
_blank">Try Messenger for mobile</a></div></div></div> </blockquote></div><=
br>
<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><br> </div></blockquote></div></div></div><br>=
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Ronald G. A=
rsenault<br>Memramcook, N.B.<br>
</div>

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