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Hi,
1st and 2nd year (etc.) Bald Eagles can be very dark, with only small
amounts of light under the wings. But they always have at least some light
in the axillary region, where the wing meets the body - whereas imm. Goldens
have the white farther out on the wings , and the axillary area is dark.
Another bird that in some lights, especially if briefly seen, can appear to
have very light wing linings and dark flight feathers is Turkey Vulture.
Richard
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Joan Czapalay <joancz@ns.sympatico.ca>wrote:
> Hi John - The white windows under the wings are the best field mark for
> imm. Goldens. Sibley's shows this also on p.126. A Swainson's has narrower
> wings (reminds me of harrier in that way) and light from body on to darker
> ends. ( Somewhat reversed from all other raptors.) Keep posting, as it
> alerts us all to keep our eyes open. Cheers, Joan
>
>
> . nhungjohn wrote:
>
>> Golden Eagle? I did, but my Peterson didn't show the contrasting linings
>> and flight feathers. More all black, or a little white in young birds.
>>
>> Swainson's hawk is another possibility, but it looked too big, too dark,
>> and too large-billed. Too bad I couldn't stop the car!
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Czapalay" <
>> joancz@ns.sympatico.ca>
>> To: <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:55 AM
>> Subject: [NatureNS] Re: Dark Raptor , was Juncos and those blue guys
>>
>>
>> Have you considered immature Golden Eagle, John? If you have Hawks in
>>> Flight by Pete Dunn, David Sibley and Clay Sutton (Houghton Mifflin,1988)
>>> note the light /dark contrast on the underwings. Cheers, Joan
>>>
>>> nhungjohn wrote:
>>>
>>>> To: all
>>>> From; John Sollows
>>>> Date: Feb. 13/10
>>>> No shortage of juncos here in Yarmouth.
>>>>
>>>> The bluebirds re-appeared in Chebogue Feb. 7-8. We have a bad shot,
>>>> taken by my wife Feb. 7. It was a cold, windy day,
>>>> and seven of them were huddling against the weather. My wife got a
>>>> little
>>>> closer, and the little guys (inclding one brownish gal) flew up and
>>>> dispersed.
>>>>
>>>> That led me to delay passing along the word. The discussion re. the
>>>> varied thrush is very a propos. Considering the weather, we didn't do these
>>>> birds any favor by trying to get a good picture. I'm glad to send our
>>>> best shot of thse guys to anyone who is interested, but the picture is too
>>>> big to be posted to all. Saw the house owner this evening. They evidently
>>>> disappeared after Feb. 8, but reappeared briefly yesterday.
>>>> On the way home from the Feb. 7 bluebird visit, on Wyman Road a turkey
>>>> vulture crossed the path of the car (not at all unusual), followed by a
>>>> dark raptor of apparently similar size with dark (black?) flight feathers
>>>> and apparently white wing linings. The contrast between wing linings and
>>>> flight feathers was striking. I presume it was an immature bald eagle, but
>>>> have never seen such contrast in an illustration. Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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Richard Stern,
317 Middle Dyke Rd.
Port Williams, NS, Canada
B0P 1T0
sternrichard@gmail.com
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<div>Hi,</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>1st and 2nd year (etc.) Bald Eagles can be very dark, with only small =
amounts of=A0light under the wings. But they always have at least some=A0li=
ght in the axillary region, where the wing meets the body - whereas imm. Go=
ldens have the white farther out on the wings , and the axillary area is da=
rk. Another bird that in some lights, especially if briefly seen,=A0can app=
ear to have very light wing linings and dark flight feathers is Turkey Vult=
ure.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Richard<br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Joan Czapalay =
<span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:joancz@ns.sympatico.ca">joancz@ns.s=
ympatico.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Hi John - The white windows unde=
r the wings are the best field mark for imm. Goldens. Sibley's shows th=
is also on p.126. A Swainson's has narrower wings (reminds me of harrie=
r in that way) and light from body on to darker ends. ( Somewhat reversed f=
rom all other raptors.) Keep posting, as it alerts us all to keep our eyes =
open. Cheers, Joan<br>
<br><br>. nhungjohn wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Golden Eagle? =A0I did, but my P=
eterson didn't show the contrasting linings and flight feathers. =A0Mor=
e all black, or a little white in young birds.<br>
<br>Swainson's hawk is another possibility, but it looked too big, too =
dark, and too large-billed. =A0Too bad I couldn't stop the car!<br><br>=
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Czapalay" <<a href=3D=
"mailto:joancz@ns.sympatico.ca" target=3D"_blank">joancz@ns.sympatico.ca</a=
>><br>
To: <<a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank">nature=
ns@chebucto.ns.ca</a>><br>Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:55 AM<br>Sub=
ject: [NatureNS] Re: Dark Raptor , was Juncos and those blue guys<br><br><b=
r>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Have you considered immature Gol=
den Eagle, John? If you have Hawks in Flight by Pete Dunn, David Sibley and=
Clay Sutton (Houghton Mifflin,1988) note the light /dark contrast on the u=
nderwings. Cheers, Joan<br>
<br>nhungjohn wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">To: =A0all<br>=A0From; =A0John S=
ollows<br>=A0Date: Feb. 13/10<br>=A0No shortage of juncos here in Yarmouth.=
<br><br>The bluebirds re-appeared in Chebogue Feb. 7-8. =A0We have a bad sh=
ot, taken by my wife Feb. 7. =A0It was a cold, windy day,<br>
and seven of them were huddling against the weather. =A0My wife got a littl=
e<br>closer, and the little guys (inclding one brownish gal) flew up and<br=
>dispersed.<br><br>That led me to delay passing along the word. =A0The disc=
ussion re. the varied thrush is very a propos. =A0Considering the weather, =
we didn't do these<br>
birds any favor by trying to get a good picture. I'm glad to send our b=
est shot of thse guys to anyone who is interested, but the picture is too b=
ig to be posted to all. Saw the house owner this evening. =A0 They evidentl=
y disappeared after Feb. 8, but reappeared briefly yesterday.<br>
=A0On the way home from the Feb. 7 bluebird visit, on Wyman Road a turkey v=
ulture crossed the path of the car =A0(not at all unusual), followed by a d=
ark raptor of apparently similar size with dark (black?) flight feathers an=
d apparently white wing linings. =A0The contrast between wing linings and f=
light feathers was striking. =A0I presume it was an immature bald eagle, bu=
t have never seen such contrast in an illustration. =A0Any thoughts?<br>
</blockquote><br></blockquote><br><br></blockquote><br></blockquote></div><=
br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 #################<br>=
Richard Stern, <br>317 Middle Dyke Rd.<br>Port Williams, NS, Canada<br>B0P =
1T0<br><br>
sternrichard@gmail.com<br>
###################<br>
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