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Index of Subjects ------=_Part_15697_22379250.1225401469134 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Stephen, Try the main page of the Integrated Taxonomic Information System (ITIS) and conduct a search from there. It is found here: http://www.cbif.gc.ca/pls/itisca/taxaget?p_ifx=cbif Good luck, Ron 2008/10/30 Stephen Shaw <srshaw@dal.ca> > Thanks Ann, Ron, for the confirmation, which is what I was after. > > I couldn't make Ron's link work, but the Symphyotrichum genus name change > is > confirmed if you go to (e.g.) the USDA site > plants.usda.gov > then plug Symphyotrichum into the search box, which brings up a page in > which > the former name Aster is given as a synonym for the species in question. > > I can't track it now, but earlier today I read somewhere on line that > taxonomic > experts had decided that the N. American asters were sufficiently distinct > from > the European species that they deserved to be moved to a different genus, > while > the Europeans, discovered first, got to retain the original genus name of > Aster. > Thanks again, > Steve > *********************************** > Quoting Ronald Arsenault <rongarsenault@gmail.com>: > >> Hello Anne, >> >> My understanding is that *Symphyotrichum novi-belgii >> *< >> http://www.cbif.gc.ca/pls/itisca/next?v_tsn=566335&taxa=&p_format=&p_ifx=cbif&p_lang=>is >> >> >> the curretnly acepted scientific name for this species. See: >> >> http://www.cbif.gc.ca/pls/itisca/next?v_tsn=522227&taxa=&p_king=every&p_string=containing&p_ifx=cbif&p_lang >> = >> >> Ron Arsenault >> Memramcook, N.B. >> >> 2008/10/29 Anne Mills <ocotillo@ns.sympatico.ca> >> >> The flowers are Aster novi-belgii, New York Aster. Cheers, Anne >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Shaw" <srshaw@dal.ca> >>> To: <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:46 PM >>> Subject: [NatureNS] New York Aster flowers? >>> >>> >>> >>> 28 October: I recently collected some insects from one of the few >>> flower >>> >>>> sets that are still in bloom in late October, most recently near York >>>> Redoubt in Halifax, and would like a tentative ID for this plant. The >>>> flowers are 2-3 cm across, have pale blue-violet petals (rays) with a >>>> yellow >>>> central disk, multiple heads per stalk and simple blade-like leaves. >>>> They >>>> are very common in clumps at the roadside and on unused land and look >>>> like >>>> what I used to call michaelmas daisies. I counted about 25 petals per >>>> head >>>> though they are looking quite beaten up by this date, so perhaps had a >>>> few >>>> more petals originally. >>>> >>>> As a non-botanist, I think these are most likely asters, either New >>>> York >>>> Aster (Symphotrichum novi-belgii), with New England Aster (Symphotrichum >>>> novae-angliae) less likely -- that species should have ~40 petals per >>>> head. >>>> Maybe this info is not much to go on for a possible ID, but does it >>>> sound >>>> like a reasonable guess, or is there something else out there that I >>>> should >>>> be considering instead? >>>> >>>> Any suggestions welcome, including "get yourself a decent flower-ID >>>> book". >>>> >>>> Steve >>>> Halifax >>>> >>> > -- >> Ronald G. Arsenault >> Memramcook, N.B. >> > > > -- Ronald G. Arsenault Memramcook, N.B. ------=_Part_15697_22379250.1225401469134 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <div>Stephen, </div> <div> </div> <div>Try the main page of the Integrated Taxonomic Information System (ITIS) and conduct a search from there. It is found here: http://www.cbif.gc.ca/pls/itisca/taxaget?p_ifx=cbif<br> </div> <div> </div> <div>Good luck,</div> <div> </div> <div>Ron<br></div> <div class="gmail_quote">2008/10/30 Stephen Shaw <span dir="ltr"><srshaw@dal.ca></span><br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Thanks Ann, Ron, for the confirmation, which is what I was after.<br><br>I couldn't make Ron's link work, but the Symphyotrichum genus name change is<br> confirmed if you go to (e.g.) the USDA site<br>plants.usda.gov<br>then plug Symphyotrichum into the search box, which brings up a page in which<br>the former name Aster is given as a synonym for the species in question.<br> <br>I can't track it now, but earlier today I read somewhere on line that taxonomic<br>experts had decided that the N. American asters were sufficiently distinct from<br>the European species that they deserved to be moved to a different genus, while<br> the Europeans, discovered first, got to retain the original genus name of<br>Aster.<br>Thanks again,<br>Steve<br>*********************************** <div class="Ih2E3d"><br>Quoting Ronald Arsenault <rongarsenault@gmail.com>:<br></div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"> <div class="Ih2E3d">Hello Anne,<br><br>My understanding is that *Symphyotrichum novi-belgii<br></div>*<http://www.cbif.gc.ca/pls/itisca/next?v_tsn=566335&taxa=&p_format=&p_ifx=cbif&p_lang=>is <div> <div></div> <div class="Wj3C7c"><br>the curretnly acepted scientific name for this species. See:<br>