[NatureNS] Hawk vs Jays

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My comment should have been David Attingberg or however his last name is sp=
elt in regards to the bird nature series.  Not Attingwood as I posted late =
at night.
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James R. Hirtle
East LaHave



From: jrhbirder@hotmail.comTo: naturens@chebucto.ns.caSubject: [NatureNS] H=
awk vs JaysDate: Wed=2C 22 Oct 2008 02:38:51 +0000


First off another red-bellied woodpecker showed up yesterday at Blockhouse.=
  This time a male.  That makes four in this area that I now know of.  One =
at Mahone Bay=2C one at Blockhouse=2C and two in Lunenburg. I've had an int=
eresting story about blue jays and a sharp-shinned hawk interaction.  My re=
portee says that every day for a week a sharp-shinned hawk has been trying =
to apprehend jays at her feeder.  The jays come to the feeder and wait for =
the hawk.  One jay diverts the hawk away from the feeder while the others c=
ome in and enjoy a meal.  The jays seem to return to the feeder oblivious t=
o the hawk=2C which appears to be a juvenile.  The hawk has not been succes=
sful at all with any of the jays at the feeder over the past two weeks.  Th=
e blue jays every day have been defecating on the hawk.  I know that fieldf=
ares will do this (Nature Series on Birds by Attingwood)=2C and that this i=
s a defensive mechanism in some other species of birds also=2C but I've not=
 heard of this in regards to blue jays.  I've done a lot of looking and a l=
ot of reading in regards to blue jays and cannot find any reference to this=
 defensive mechanism within that species.  Therefore=2C is it possible that=
 this is a defensive mechanism developed within this small group of jays at=
 Riverport only=2C or is it a fact that nothing has been done in regards to=
 a study=2C as we have not witnessed or had the opportunity to observe this=
 trait in blue jays.  It might in fact be very common and we do not know ab=
out it due to lack of study of observations.  If anyone else has any input =
on this or knows of any studies being done with blue jays in this regard I =
would very much like to know about it. James R. HirtleEast LaHave



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My comment should have been David Attingberg or however his last name is sp=
elt in regards to the bird nature series.&nbsp=3B Not Attingwood as I poste=
d late at night.<BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
James R. Hirtle<BR>
East LaHave<BR><BR><BR>

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First off another red-bellied woodpecker showed up yesterday at Blockhouse.=
&nbsp=3B This time a male.&nbsp=3B That makes four in this area that I now =
know of.&nbsp=3B One at Mahone Bay=2C one at Blockhouse=2C and two in Lunen=
burg.<BR>&nbsp=3B<BR>I've had an interesting story about blue jays and a sh=
arp-shinned hawk interaction.&nbsp=3B My reportee says that every day for a=
 week a sharp-shinned hawk has been trying to apprehend jays at her feeder.=
&nbsp=3B The jays come to the feeder and wait for the hawk.&nbsp=3B One jay=
 diverts the hawk away from the feeder while the others come in and enjoy a=
 meal.&nbsp=3B The jays seem to return to the feeder oblivious to the hawk=
=2C which appears to be a juvenile.&nbsp=3B The hawk has not been successfu=
l at all with any of the jays at the feeder over the past two weeks.&nbsp=
=3B The blue jays every day have been defecating on the hawk.&nbsp=3B I kno=
w that fieldfares will do this (Nature Series on Birds by Attingwood)=2C an=
d that this is a defensive mechanism in some other species of birds also=2C=
 but I've not heard of this in regards to blue jays.&nbsp=3B I've done a lo=
t of looking and a lot of reading in regards to blue jays and cannot find a=
ny reference to this defensive mechanism within that species.&nbsp=3B There=
fore=2C is it possible that this is a defensive mechanism developed within =
this small group of jays at Riverport only=2C or is it a fact that nothing =
has been done in regards to a study=2C as we have not witnessed or had the =
opportunity to observe this trait in blue jays.&nbsp=3B It might in fact be=
 very common and we do not know about it due to lack of study of observatio=
ns.&nbsp=3B If anyone else has any input on this or knows of any studies be=
ing done with blue jays in this regard I would very much like to know about=
 it.<BR>&nbsp=3B<BR>James R. Hirtle<BR>East LaHave<BR><BR><BR>

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