[NatureNS] Re: Gyrfalcon records in Nova Scotia

From: James Hirtle <jrhbirder@hotmail.com>
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:34:55 +0000
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I know there are other guides out there.  You state that the longer tail pr=
ecludes a gyrfalcon.  So does this mean that Sibleys is incorrect in statin=
g that the gyrfalcon is relatively long-tailed.  If so this is good to know=
.  I'm not stating this to be critical=2C but to determine if our guides ar=
e incorrect.  All the best.
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Sincerely=2C
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James R. Hirtle> Date: Tue=2C 30 Sep 2008 09:57:44 -0300> To: naturens@cheb=
ucto.ns.ca> From: maybank@ns.sympatico.ca> Subject: [NatureNS] Re: Gyrfalco=
n records in Nova Scotia> > At 09:33 PM 29/09/2008=2C Eric Mills wrote:> >I=
 have some serious doubts about your Gyrfalcon. > >Peregrines can vary a lo=
t in size and colour=2C > >and they have a longer tail relative to body > >=
than do Gyrfalcons. Gyrs actually have very > >broad wings and short tails =
relative to body=2C > >giving them at times a Goshawk-like look. The > >lon=
g tail that you mention almost certainly > >precludes Gyr. I might mention =
that there was a > >very large dark Peregrine that hung around the > >Weste=
rn Light all last fall and that I almost called a Gyr myself. The> >same bi=
rd? Who knows.> > There have been several Gyrfalcons reported in > Nova Sco=
tia in the past two weeks. I recall > reports from Cape Sable Island=2C HRM=
=2C and Brier > Island. All were of dark-plumaged > individuals. And=2C ind=
eed=2C several such birds > are reported each autumn. And I once reported >=
 an early October Gyrfalcon from Seal Island=2C > another dark bird. But a =
recent event at a > Texas hawkwatch has caused me to revisit my own > sight=
ing=2C and to have me encourage anyone else > who sees a possible Gyrfalcan=
 in autumn to THOROUGHLY document the sighting.> > An account of the encoun=
ter is posted here:> > http://www.ccbirding.com/thw/2008/gyr.html> > Go to =
the bottom of the page=2C and read up. The > first (ie oldest) posting is a=
t the bottom. The > photos of the bird are at the top of the > page. Keep i=
n mind that 25+ hawkwatchers=2C some > very experienced=2C thought the bird=
 was a > dark-phase Gyrfalcon. But when the photos could > be viewed afterw=
ards by hawk identification > specialists=2C all concluded that the bird wa=
s a dark large Peregrine Falcon.> > The ID of this bird is still being deba=
ted=2C but > the point to me is clear. In Nova Scotia we > cannot be blas=
=E9 regarding the reporting of > dark-phase Gyrfalcons at any time of year=
=2C and we > should try to photograph them if possible=2C and > provide wri=
tten documentation. Without such > documentation=2C and given the difficult=
y of > accurately separating dark-phase Gyrfalcons from > large dark-phase =
Peregrine Falcons=2C any > undocumented reports are of little or no value t=
o the ornithological record.> > With respect=2C> > > ----------------------=
-------------------------------------------------------> Blake Maybank> may=
bank@ns.sympatico.ca> > Editor=2C "Nova Scotia Birds"> > author=2C "Birding=
 Sites of Nova Scotia"> http://maybank.tripod.com/BSNS.htm> > White's Lake=
=2C Nova Scotia=2C Canada >=20
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I know there are other guides out there.&nbsp=3B You state that the longer =
tail precludes a gyrfalcon.&nbsp=3B So does this mean that Sibleys is incor=
rect in stating that the gyrfalcon is relatively long-tailed.&nbsp=3B If so=
 this is good to know.&nbsp=3B I'm not stating this to be critical=2C but t=
o determine if our guides are incorrect.&nbsp=3B All the best.<BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
Sincerely=2C<BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
James R. Hirtle<BR><BR>&gt=3B Date: Tue=2C 30 Sep 2008 09:57:44 -0300<BR>&g=
t=3B To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<BR>&gt=3B From: maybank@ns.sympatico.ca<BR=
>&gt=3B Subject: [NatureNS] Re: Gyrfalcon records in Nova Scotia<BR>&gt=3B =
<BR>&gt=3B At 09:33 PM 29/09/2008=2C Eric Mills wrote:<BR>&gt=3B &gt=3BI ha=
ve some serious doubts about your Gyrfalcon. <BR>&gt=3B &gt=3BPeregrines ca=
n vary a lot in size and colour=2C <BR>&gt=3B &gt=3Band they have a longer =
tail relative to body <BR>&gt=3B &gt=3Bthan do Gyrfalcons. Gyrs actually ha=
ve very <BR>&gt=3B &gt=3Bbroad wings and short tails relative to body=2C <B=
R>&gt=3B &gt=3Bgiving them at times a Goshawk-like look. The <BR>&gt=3B &gt=
=3Blong tail that you mention almost certainly <BR>&gt=3B &gt=3Bprecludes G=
yr. I might mention that there was a <BR>&gt=3B &gt=3Bvery large dark Pereg=
rine that hung around the <BR>&gt=3B &gt=3BWestern Light all last fall and =
that I almost called a Gyr myself. The<BR>&gt=3B &gt=3Bsame bird? Who knows=
.<BR>&gt=3B <BR>&gt=3B There have been several Gyrfalcons reported in <BR>&=
gt=3B Nova Scotia in the past two weeks. I recall <BR>&gt=3B reports from C=
ape Sable Island=2C HRM=2C and Brier <BR>&gt=3B Island. All were of dark-pl=
umaged <BR>&gt=3B individuals. And=2C indeed=2C several such birds <BR>&gt=
=3B are reported each autumn. And I once reported <BR>&gt=3B an early Octob=
er Gyrfalcon from Seal Island=2C <BR>&gt=3B another dark bird. But a recent=
 event at a <BR>&gt=3B Texas hawkwatch has caused me to revisit my own <BR>=
&gt=3B sighting=2C and to have me encourage anyone else <BR>&gt=3B who sees=
 a possible Gyrfalcan in autumn to THOROUGHLY document the sighting.<BR>&gt=
=3B <BR>&gt=3B An account of the encounter is posted here:<BR>&gt=3B <BR>&g=
t=3B http://www.ccbirding.com/thw/2008/gyr.html<BR>&gt=3B <BR>&gt=3B Go to =
the bottom of the page=2C and read up. The <BR>&gt=3B first (ie oldest) pos=
ting is at the bottom. The <BR>&gt=3B photos of the bird are at the top of =
the <BR>&gt=3B page. Keep in mind that 25+ hawkwatchers=2C some <BR>&gt=3B =
very experienced=2C thought the bird was a <BR>&gt=3B dark-phase Gyrfalcon.=
 But when the photos could <BR>&gt=3B be viewed afterwards by hawk identifi=
cation <BR>&gt=3B special