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--Boundary_(ID_jw2iDaRyjbKQoOaQnvq3cQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I'm sure Murray is right about anything at all attracting the gulls. But oily fishy stuff would attract many kinds of underwater critters, from copepods to krill and fish etc., I'd guess, which in turn would then attract the birds, too. Concerning birds and the sense of smell, our Leach's (and other) Storm Petrels are renowned for their sense of smell, likewise the shearwaters and perhaps fulmars?, but most birds have very poor olfactory senses. Cheers from Jim in Wolfville Begin forwarded message: > From: dowitcher <dowitcher@eastlink.ca> > Date: September 14, 2008 5:16:44 AM ADT > To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Chumming for seabirds - what works? > Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > > hi dont be puzzled why crackers or dog food would work as well as > fish chum because fish chum is better once they get a taste, > anything will attract gulls and when you get a few gull comming and > more etc the other seabirds see this hey there is food over there > lets go get it. > carl cut up frozen herring onetime we had shearwaters etc the > whole way back. anyway it quite simple > i save 5 gallon cans of fish waste at the plant andfreeze it for > chum . > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "P.L. Chalmers" > <plchalmers@ns.sympatico.ca> > To: <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> > Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 11:04 PM > Subject: [NatureNS] Chumming for seabirds - what works? > > >> Hi there, >> >> I'm puzzled as to why crackers or dog kibble would work as >> well as the usual oily/fishy chum mixes. >> >> When you see a fishing boat at work, it is often followed by >> a cloud of gulls hoping for a free meal. Chum is supposed to >> substitute for the fish waste that is thrown over the side >> of fishing boats. There seem to be two theories about what prompts >> the birds come in to investigate. Like Elizabeth, I have been on >> whale and seabird cruises (Grand Manan, Brier Island) where old fish >> scraps were mixed with bread and used to attract birds. The oily >> smell was supposedly what drew in the birds. I think it is Fulton >> Lavender who recommends bringing a can of sardines on the boat, and >> after eating the sardines for lunch, tying a cord to the pull tab on >> the can and then pitching it overboard. He said there was enough oil >> left in the can to spread a slick behind the boat, and that would >> bring in the birds. >> >> On the other hand, some people think that the action of >> flinging anything small and floatable overboard deludes the gulls, >> and their more interesting fellow-travellers, into responding to an >> apparent fishing boat. >> >> Ideas? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Patricia L. Chalmers >> Halifax >> >> >> >> for At 05:51 PM 13/09/2008, you wrote: >>> i always took a box of crackers with me works just fine >>> just crush them up. >>> no smell . but the real chum works better just ask carl >>> haycock. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "joan waldron" >>> <waldrojo@ns.sympatico.ca> >>> To: <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> >>> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 10:37 AM >>> Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Nova Scotia Bird Society field trip: Briar >>> Island: Sept. 26 to Sept. 28 >>> >>> >>>> When Ken McK and I were on a sea bird trip off Woolongong >>>> Australia a couple >>>> of years ago the "chum" used was dried dog food and it really >>>> worked. >>>> Joan W >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1670 - Release Date: > 9/13/2008 12:50 PM > --Boundary_(ID_jw2iDaRyjbKQoOaQnvq3cQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable <html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "> I'm sure Murray is right about anything at all attracting the gulls. = =A0But oily fishy stuff would attract many kinds of underwater critters, = from copepods to krill and fish etc., =A0I'd guess, which in turn would = then attract the birds, too. =A0Concerning birds and the sense of smell, = our Leach's (and other) Storm Petrels are renowned for their sense of = smell, likewise the shearwaters and perhaps fulmars?, but most birds = have very poor olfactory senses.<div><br></div><div>Cheers from Jim in = Wolfville<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>From: = </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px = Helvetica">dowitcher <<a = href=3D"mailto:dowitcher@eastlink.ca">dowitcher@eastlink.ca</a>></font></d= iv><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>Date: = </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px = Helvetica">September 14, 2008 5:16:44 AM ADT</font></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>To: </b></font><font = face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica"><a = href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a></font>= </div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: = 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" = color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: = #000000"><b>Subject: </b></font><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" = style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica"><b>Re: [NatureNS] Chumming for seabirds = - what works?</b></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font = face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px = Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>Reply-To: </b></font><font = face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica"><a = href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a></font>= </div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: = 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> <div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">hi dont be puzzled why crackers or dog food would = work as well as fish chum because fish chum is better once they get a = taste,<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>anything will = attract gulls and when you get a few gull comming and more etc the other = seabirds see this<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>hey = there is food over there lets go get it.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0</span>carl cut up frozen herring = onetime we had shearwaters etc the whole way back. anyway it quite = simple</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0</span>i save 5 gallon cans of fish = waste at the plant andfreeze it for</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0=A0 </span>chum .</div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; = min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: = 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">----- Original Message ----- = From: "P.L. Chalmers" <<a = href=3D"mailto:plchalmers@ns.sympatico.ca">plchalmers@ns.sympatico.ca</a>>= </div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: = 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">To: <<a = href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a>></div>= <div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 11:04 = PM</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: = 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Subject: [NatureNS] Chumming for seabirds - = what works?</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> <blockquote = type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Hi there,</div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 </span>I'm puzzled as to = why crackers or dog kibble would work as</div><div style=3D"margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">well as = the usual oily/fishy chum mixes.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: = 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 </span>When you see a = fishing boat at work, it is often followed by</div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">a cloud of gulls hoping for a free meal.<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>Chum is supposed to</div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">substitute for the fish waste that is thrown over = the side</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">of<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>fishing boats.<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>There seem to be two theories = about what prompts</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: = 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">the birds come in to = investigate.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>Like = Elizabeth, I have been on</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">whale and = seabird cruises (Grand Manan, Brier Island) where old fish</div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">scraps were mixed with bread and used to attract = birds. The oily</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">smell was supposedly what drew = in the birds. <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>I think = it is Fulton</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Lavender who recommends bringing = a can of sardines on the boat, and</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">after eating = the sardines for lunch, tying a cord to the pull tab on</div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">the can and then pitching it overboard.<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>He said there was enough = oil</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">left in the can to spread a = slick behind the boat, and that would</div><div style=3D"margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">bring in = the birds.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = </span>On the other hand, some people think that the action of</div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">flinging anything small and floatable overboard = deludes the gulls,</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: = 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">and their more interesting = fellow-travellers, into responding to an</div><div style=3D"margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">apparent = fishing boat.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = </span>Ideas?</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = </span>Cheers,</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = </span>Patricia L. Chalmers</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 </span>Halifax</div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; = min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: = 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0</span>for At 05:51 PM 13/09/2008, = you wrote:</div> <blockquote type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">i always = took a box of crackers with me works just fine</div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0</span>just = crush them up.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0=A0 </span>no smell<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>.<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>but the real chum works = better just ask carl haycock.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: = 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">----- Original Message ----- From: "joan waldron" = <<a = href=3D"mailto:waldrojo@ns.sympatico.ca">waldrojo@ns.sympatico.ca</a>></di= v><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">To: <<a = href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a>></div>= <div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 10:37 = AM</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: = 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Nova Scotia Bird = Society field trip: Briar</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Island: Sept. = 26 to Sept. 28</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> <blockquote = type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">When Ken McK and I were on a sea = bird trip off Woolongong Australia a couple</div><div style=3D"margin-top:= 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">of = years ago the "chum" used was dried dog food and it really = worked.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Joan W</div> = </blockquote></blockquote><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: = 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; = "><br></div> </blockquote><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: = 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; = "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; = ">------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; = min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">No virus = found in this incoming message.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Checked by = AVG - http://www.avg.com</div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1670 - = Release Date: 9/13/2008 12:50 PM</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: = 14px; "><br></div> </blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>= --Boundary_(ID_jw2iDaRyjbKQoOaQnvq3cQ)--
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