[NatureNS] Peter or Peters Island

From: "John Sollows" <nhungjohn@ns.sympatico.ca>
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:52:30 -0300
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To:  All

From:  John Sollows

date:  July 11/08

Let me add my support to what Dave has said.  Several times in my life, =
I have seen locations re-named apparently by whomever said what was to =
be painted on a road sign.  We locals certainly weren't consulted, and =
locals generally know best what the name should be!

Could the answer be in the Freeport Archives??


  Dave,
  I agree with you.  The authority (probably actually a low-level clerk =
or draftsman) sometimes assigns a name not even used by locals.  There =
also is a phobia against possessives in place names.  That may be what =
is behind the desire to use Peter instead of Peters (or really Peter's). =
 Who knows: maybe they think that they are making a smaller carbon =
footprint by saving on ink.
  They generally will not use an apostrophe where it is appropriate.  =
Now Peter's Island sounds to me like a possessive: the island must have =
belonged to someone named Peter, or perhaps it was discovered by him, or =
he was shipwrecked on it, &c.  There should be an apostrophe in there, =
at least in the English language as ordinarily used.


  Maybe it's early in the morning, or maybe I am just an overly =
sensitive English-speaker.  (Note that I am an "English-speaker", and I =
will feel strongly motivated to punch out anyone who calls me an =
"anglophone".)


  =97Paul


  On Jul 10, 2008, at 6:28 AM, Dave/Sharon wrote:


    As a Brier Island resident, born here over 60 years ago this is my =
slant on this topic: I beleive all the long time residents of Westport & =
Freeport call Peters Island, Peters Island. This is the traditional name =
used when this island is refered to. Why should an outside, so called =
authority, give the island another name or have the authority to do so?  =
It would be like calling Halifax, Halifix. What a riot that would cause. =
I think the maping people & the Gazetter of Canada should amend the name =
they have given Peters  Island.
    Next!!
    Dave
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Christopher Majka
      To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
      Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 1:11 AM
      Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Peter or Peters Island


      Hi Andy,


      The Gazetter of Canada for Nova Scotia calls it Peter Island.


      Cheers,


      Chris


      On 9-Jul-08, at 11:46 PM, Andy Moir/Chris Callaghan wrote:


        Does anyone know the official name of the island between Brier =
Island and Long Island.  The Nova Scotia map says Peter Island.  The =
Lighthouse Society website says Peter Island.  Many locals call it =
Peters Island (Peters is a long standing Islands name).  I need to use =
the name in an interpretive panel, and I'd like to get it right.
        Thanks,
        Andy


      Christopher Majka
      Nova Scotia Museum, 1747 Summer St., Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada  =
B3H 3A6
      c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca










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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Let me add my support to what Dave has =
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  <DIV>I agree with you. &nbsp;The authority (probably actually a =
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  &nbsp;There also is a phobia against possessives in place names. =
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  <DIV>They generally will not use an apostrophe where it is =
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  &nbsp;Now Peter's Island sounds to me like a possessive: the island =
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  was shipwrecked on it, &amp;c. &nbsp;There should be an apostrophe in =
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  <DIV>Maybe it's early in the morning, or maybe I am just an overly =
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  <DIV>=97Paul</DIV>
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