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grandparents This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A4_01C8C959.04EF8EE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Iy would seem Paul that you not only have not had any experience working = in agriculture, but that you have never watched the fundy tides. Someone = remarked that they visited Bear River when the tides were out and they = knew why it was called Bare River. When the tide was in the water would = rise to make a good lake for boating and swimming. I believe in some = areas the tide will rise on the full moon to as much as forty feet - at = the new moon it is much less than that, but slowly increases in distance = as the moon increases. What I have seen happen has to be believed, even if some can't = believe it. Roland. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Paul S. Boyer=20 To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [NatureNS] when to plant Folks, this is magic and superstition. The moon doesn't effect plants = in the way described. As for the effect of the moon on human behavior, it sounds so = plausible. The trouble is that people who actually keep the statistics = report no significant correlation between phase of the moon and crime. = It's another urban myth: a modern superstition. Day of the week makes = more difference by far, because when people are off work, they tend to = get into trouble. The National Geographic is just wrong about this. You can't believe = all that they publish. The prevalence of websites promoting such ideas = just shows that modern people are just a gullible as people of the past. The tidal effect of the moon is so miniscule that until recent years = it was undetectable in the laboratory. On land, the tides raise the = surface of the earth about one meter from high to low tide. You can = detect the change in gravitational attraction caused by this = deformation, which moves you about one meter farther from the center of = the Earth (that is one meter out of a radius of about 6,370,000 meters!) = using a gravimeter; but the actual tidal force is so tiny that you = cannot so measure it. The attempt to use phase of moon as an explanation for things such as = plant growth is pure superstition. It is at attempt to give a = scientific-sounding basis to ancient astrological ideas. On Jun 7, 2008, at 11:15 AM, Joan Czapalay wrote: My grandparents ( both the maternal- Puritan ones and the paternal = Irish ones and Lunenburg German ones) planted by the moon. The plants = growing up above the ground were best planted as the moon waxed in late = May/early June, and the ones growing below the ground were best planted = as the moon waned. Bartenders, schoolteachers, emergency room workers and the police = know that the moon influences a lot of things, including human behavior. = National Geographic News had an article on moon gardening July10th, = 2003. This quote may be helpful: Harris gives the example that the best time to turn over a garden = is during the last quarter of the moon because that is when the water = table has dropped to its lowest point. "It means less moisture is within = the soil. It is far easier to turn soil over when there is less moisture = in it," he said. *Moon Boom* Seeking to preserve knowledge about moon-gardening techniques = before they were eclipsed entirely by modern gardening practices, Harris = wrote /RJ Harris' Moon Gardening/ with the help of journalist Will = Summers. But since the book's September 2002 publication, Harris said he = learned he need not have worried. Harris says he has heard from people in New Zealand, Austria, = Germany, and the United States who use the lunar cycle as a guide for = their gardening chores. And the Internet is sprouting with Web sites = dedicated to the practice. On her Web site Gardening by the Moon.com = (www.gardeningbythemoon.com), Caren Catterall writes, "Plants respond to = the same gravitational pull of tides that affect the oceans, which = alternately stimulates root and leaf growth. Seeds sprout more quickly, = plants grow vigorously and at an optimum rate, harvests are larger and = they don't go to seed as fast." PS: Many questions asked on naturens can be answered by using great = search engines like Google and YouTube. However, it is fun to share = personal observations and experiences. Cheers, Joan David&Jane Schlosberg wrote: One more thought about planting times: I feel that later = plantings tend to catch up with earlier ones, even if the earlier ones = are not harmed by extremely cold nights. For example, if I plant beans = and they come up when it's still cool, then I plant more 10 days later, = I get mature beans only 2-3 days earlier from the early planting. The = same seems true for peas. The early-planted ones will yield a bit = earlier, but the difference is very slight. Jane p.s. Is there a listserve or other web-based discussion group for = gardening that is specific to our climate? = ------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.6/1489 - = Release Date: 6/7/2008 11:17 AM ------=_NextPart_000_00A4_01C8C959.04EF8EE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16640" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY=20 style=3D"WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"=20 bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Iy would seem Paul that you not only = have not had=20 any experience working in agriculture, but that you have never watched = the fundy=20 tides. Someone remarked that they visited Bear River when the tides were = out and=20 they knew why it was called Bare River. When the tide was in the water = would=20 rise to make a good lake for boating and swimming. I believe in = some areas=20 the tide will rise on the full moon to as much as forty feet - at the = new moon=20 it is much less than that, but slowly increases in distance as the moon=20 increases.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2> What I=20 have seen happen has to be believed, even if some can't believe = it.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>