[NatureNS] when to plant

From: "Roland McCormick" <roland.mccormick@ns.sympatico.ca>
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Iy would seem Paul that you not only have not had any experience working =
in agriculture, but that you have never watched the fundy tides. Someone =
remarked that they visited Bear River when the tides were out and they =
knew why it was called Bare River. When the tide was in the water would =
rise to make a good lake for boating and swimming.  I believe in some =
areas the tide will rise on the full moon to as much as forty feet - at =
the new moon it is much less than that, but slowly increases in distance =
as the moon increases.
        What I have seen happen has to be believed, even if some can't =
believe it.

Roland.

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Paul S. Boyer=20
  To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
  Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 10:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [NatureNS] when to plant


  Folks, this is magic and superstition. The moon doesn't effect plants =
in the way described.


  As for the effect of the moon on human behavior, it sounds so =
plausible.  The trouble is that people who actually keep the statistics =
report no significant correlation between phase of the moon and crime.  =
It's another urban myth: a modern superstition.  Day of the week makes =
more difference by far, because when people are off work, they tend to =
get into trouble.


  The National Geographic is just wrong about this.  You can't believe =
all that they publish.  The prevalence of websites promoting such ideas =
just shows that modern people are just a gullible as people of the past.


  The tidal effect of the moon is so miniscule that until recent years =
it was undetectable in the laboratory.  On land, the tides raise the =
surface of the earth about one meter from high to low tide.  You can =
detect the change in gravitational attraction caused by this =
deformation, which moves you about one meter farther from the center of =
the Earth (that is one meter out of a radius of about 6,370,000 meters!) =
using a gravimeter; but the actual tidal force is so tiny that you =
cannot so measure it.


  The attempt to use phase of moon as an explanation for things such as =
plant growth is pure superstition.  It is at attempt to give a =
scientific-sounding basis to ancient astrological ideas.


  On Jun 7, 2008, at 11:15 AM, Joan Czapalay wrote:



    My grandparents  ( both the maternal- Puritan ones and the paternal =
Irish ones and Lunenburg German ones) planted by the moon. The plants =
growing up above the ground were best planted as the moon waxed in late =
May/early June, and the ones growing below the ground were best planted =
as the moon waned.
    Bartenders, schoolteachers, emergency room workers and the police =
know that the moon influences a lot of things, including human behavior. =
National Geographic News had an article on moon gardening July10th, =
2003. This quote may be helpful:



      Harris gives the example that the best time to turn over a garden =
is during the last quarter of the moon because that is when the water =
table has dropped to its lowest point. "It means less moisture is within =
the soil. It is far easier to turn soil over when there is less moisture =
in it," he said.



      *Moon Boom*



      Seeking to preserve knowledge about moon-gardening techniques =
before they were eclipsed entirely by modern gardening practices, Harris =
wrote /RJ Harris' Moon Gardening/ with the help of journalist Will =
Summers.



      But since the book's September 2002 publication, Harris said he =
learned he need not have worried.



      Harris says he has heard from people in New Zealand, Austria, =
Germany, and the United States who use the lunar cycle as a guide for =
their gardening chores. And the Internet is sprouting with Web sites =
dedicated to the practice.



      On her Web site Gardening by the Moon.com =
(www.gardeningbythemoon.com), Caren Catterall writes, "Plants respond to =
the same gravitational pull of tides that affect the oceans, which =
alternately stimulates root and leaf growth. Seeds sprout more quickly, =
plants grow vigorously and at an optimum rate, harvests are larger and =
they don't go to seed as fast."



    PS: Many questions asked on naturens can be answered by using great =
search engines like Google and YouTube. However, it is fun to share =
personal observations and experiences. Cheers, Joan

    David&Jane Schlosberg wrote:

      One more thought about planting times:  I feel that later =
plantings tend to catch up with earlier ones, even if the earlier ones =
are not harmed by extremely cold nights.  For example, if I plant beans =
and they come up when it's still cool, then I plant more 10 days later, =
I get mature beans only 2-3 days earlier from the early planting.  The =
same seems true for peas.  The early-planted ones will yield a bit =
earlier, but the difference is very slight.

      Jane

      p.s.  Is there a listserve or other web-based discussion group for =
gardening that is specific to our climate?

      =
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