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Index of Subjects --Apple-Mail-57-78274889 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Ian, I'll warp the strand of this thread in yet one more direction. Earlier this season when buying sunflower seeds from a local retailer I noticed clouds of Indian Meal Moths (Plodia interpunctella (Hubner)) in the aisle where the bags of sunflower seeds were stored. This is one of the most troublesome of grain-infesting moths. I've had a couple of infestations of these in my house the past couple of years, one of which was in my dry-goods cupboard where they got into virtually every dried-stored product that was accessible (including a number of bags and jars that I had thought were well-sealed) resulting in my having to discard almost half the products that were there. A second infestation was in the bird-seed bags in the basement, forcing me to rapid remedial action. I noticed at the retailer that the moths were ranging far and wide to other seeds and pet-food products. Consumers need to be attentive to the potential presence of these moths since, once introduced into a house, they can spread to many products and cause considerable damage. Below are some URLs of websites that have more information on this species http://www.ext.colostate.edu/Pubs/insect/05598.html http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2089.html http://www.ipm.iastate.edu/ipm/iiin/mindianm.html Cheers! Chris On Feb 24, 2008, at 12:15 PM, iamclar@dal.ca wrote: > All: > > I hesitate to add to this discussion given the lack of any > controlled experiment > on the issue, but I did note last year that my black sunflower seeds > that had > been kept over from a previous year, and possibly two, were not much > used by > visitng birds until I replaced then with fresh stock. I don't know > why they > were rejected - no evident mould, e.g. - but maybe they had lost > volatile > lipids or become a little rancid. > > I wonder if suppliers/dealers sometimes market old stock. I don't > like the wide > over-application of pesticdes, but everything I have read suggests > that > Roubndup and the like are unlikely to be detected by or hazardous to > seed-eating birds. > > Cheers, Ian McLaren Christopher Majka - Atlantic Canada Coleoptera http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Environment/NHR/atlantic_coleoptera.html c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca --Apple-Mail-57-78274889 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Ian,<div><br = class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>I'll warp the strand of = this thread in yet one more direction. Earlier this season when buying = sunflower seeds from a local retailer I noticed clouds of Indian Meal = Moths (Plodia interpunctella (Hubner)) in the aisle where the bags = of sunflower seeds were stored. This is one of the most troublesome = of grain-infesting moths. I've had a couple of infestations of these in = my house the past couple of years, one of which was in my dry-goods = cupboard where they got into virtually every dried-stored product that = was accessible (including a number of bags and jars that I had thought = were well-sealed) resulting in my having to discard almost half the = products that were there. A second infestation was in the bird-seed bags = in the basement, forcing me to rapid remedial action.</div><div><br = class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>I noticed at the retailer = that the moths were ranging far and wide to other seeds and pet-food = products. Consumers need to be attentive to the potential presence of = these moths since, once introduced into a house, they can spread to many = products and cause considerable damage. Below are some URLs of websites = that have more information on this species</div><div><br = class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><a = href=3D"http://www.ext.colostate.edu/Pubs/insect/05598.html">http://www.ex= t.colostate.edu/Pubs/insect/05598.html</a></div><div><a = href=3D"http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2089.html">http://ohioline.o= su.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2089.html</a></div><div><a = href=3D"http://www.ipm.iastate.edu/ipm/iiin/mindianm.html">http://www.ipm.= iastate.edu/ipm/iiin/mindianm.html</a></div><div><br = class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Cheers!</div><div><br = class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Chris</div><div><br><div><di= v>On Feb 24, 2008, at 12:15 PM, <a = href=3D"mailto:iamclar@dal.ca">iamclar@dal.ca</a> wrote:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote = type=3D"cite">All:<br><br>I hesitate to add to this discussion given the = lack of any controlled experiment<br>on the issue, but I did note last = year that my black sunflower seeds that had<br>been kept over from a = previous year, and possibly two, were not much used by<br>visitng birds = until I replaced then with fresh stock. I don't know why = they<br>were rejected - no evident mould, e.g. - but maybe they had lost = volatile<br>lipids or become a little rancid.<br><br>I wonder if = suppliers/dealers sometimes market old stock. I don't like the = wide<br>over-application of pesticdes, but everything I have read = suggests that<br>Roubndup and the like are unlikely to be detected by or = hazardous to<br>seed-eating birds.<br><br>Cheers, Ian = McLaren<br></blockquote></div><br><div apple-content-edited=3D"true"> = <span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; = color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 14px; = font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; = letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: = auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: = auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style=3D"word-wrap: = break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: = after-white-space; "><div>Christopher Majka - Atlantic Canada = Coleoptera</div><div><a = href=3D"http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Environment/NHR/atlantic_coleoptera.html= ">http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Environment/NHR/atlantic_coleoptera.html</a></= div><div><a = href=3D"mailto:c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca">c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca</a></div><= div><br class=3D"webkit-block-placehold