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Hi All, Feb 21, 2008
Today was a good time to be outdoors and, timing being everything,
Naturens came to life while I was elsewhere. Samual Johnson, as I
recall, said 'The law is an ass" or something to that effect.
Anything sent by electronic means, e.g. phone calls, e-mails and
radio is as public as BO in a stalled elevator. In addition to the
intended audience, messages may be tapped by the unintended for
commercial or security purposes.
But, having some node, such as birding on the net, linking to
Naturens is I think entirely positive. Just think, if several thousand
people have the opportunity to read our e-mails, then the chance that
someone will read every word and comprehend the message will approach unity.
Whether this still applies (or ever applied because I did not check)
I don't know, but according to a backchannel e-mail from someone who
followed birding on the net (Sept 16, 2006), the body of Naturens e-mail
could be accessed only if they were in plain text.
Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville
Wild Flora wrote:
>I can't imagine any theory under which Birding on the Net would NOT be
>violating copyright law.
>
>The authors own the copyright to emails we write unless we explicitly assign
>them to others. Posting to the list gives the list the right to print our
>emails, but it doesn't extend that permission to anyone else.
>
>The fact that this list is "public" in the sense that many people read it is
>not relevant. Material I post to my blog is even more public than what I
>post here, but I still own it, and nobody has the right to use it without my
>permission.
>
>For more on this, check the Wikipedia entry on "blog scraping." Although
>this practice relates to the use of blog entries without permission, what
>Birding on the Net is doing is basically the same. Note that the Wikipedia
>states in no uncertain terms that it is illegal.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blog_scraping
>
>What's more, if Birding on the Net is putting our email addresses online at
>a permanent site, it is exposing all of us to a giant increase in the amount
>of spam we receive. Spammers have software that searches the Internet for
>expressions that contain the "@" sign in order to find addresses to send
>spam to.
>
>Wild Flora
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]
>On Behalf Of Doug Linzey
>Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 12:02 AM
>To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] birdingonthe.net
>
>Ulli comments:
>
>>As it
>>is done right now I see it as a case of copyright violation by
>>
>birdingonthe.net,
>
>>unless the owner of NatureNS gave permission (but then it should be in the
>>
>
>>NatureNs user agreement).
>>
>
>That's not a bad idea. We could certainly include a line about the lack
>of privacy in the welcoming message that goes out to subscribers. The
>fact is that NatureNS is a public list. It's not moderated, and anyone
>can join. As administrator I can deny access to a any given e-mail
>address, but that's a last resort sort of thing, which fortunately we
>haven't had to do for quite a while.
>
>It's unwise to post anything to any e-mail list that you wouldn't want
>the world to read.
>
>Cheers,
>Doug Linzey
>
>
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