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Index of Subjects --0-687726893-1203608891=:7824 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I just checked their website and found out that they don't actually have the '@' symbol in our e-mail addresses, instead it's the word 'AT.' However, I don't know how much this can prevent web crawlers from finding them. Like some of you have said, it would be fine with me if we actually knew that our e-mails were being posted on a public website before we signed onto the list serve and as long as the site was properly protected and it didn't have personal information. Lucas Berrigan Eastern shore, HRM, Nova Scotia. My site: http://www.geocities.com/interpolerater/ ----- Original Message ---- From: Wild Flora <herself@wildflora.com> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 9:11:20 AM Subject: RE: [NatureNS] birdingonthe.net I can't imagine any theory under which Birding on the Net would NOT be violating copyright law. The authors own the copyright to emails we write unless we explicitly assign them to others. Posting to the list gives the list the right to print our emails, but it doesn't extend that permission to anyone else. The fact that this list is "public" in the sense that many people read it is not relevant. Material I post to my blog is even more public than what I post here, but I still own it, and nobody has the right to use it without my permission. For more on this, check the Wikipedia entry on "blog scraping." Although this practice relates to the use of blog entries without permission, what Birding on the Net is doing is basically the same. Note that the Wikipedia states in no uncertain terms that it is illegal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blog_scraping What's more, if Birding on the Net is putting our email addresses online at a permanent site, it is exposing all of us to a giant increase in the amount of spam we receive. Spammers have software that searches the Internet for expressions that contain the "@" sign in order to find addresses to send spam to. Wild Flora -----Original Message----- From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Doug Linzey Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 12:02 AM To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Subject: Re: [NatureNS] birdingonthe.net Ulli comments: > As it > is done right now I see it as a case of copyright violation by birdingonthe.net, > unless the owner of NatureNS gave permission (but then it should be in the > NatureNs user agreement). That's not a bad idea. We could certainly include a line about the lack of privacy in the welcoming message that goes out to subscribers. The fact is that NatureNS is a public list. It's not moderated, and anyone can join. As administrator I can deny access to a any given e-mail address, but that's a last resort sort of thing, which fortunately we haven't had to do for quite a while. It's unwise to post anything to any e-mail list that you wouldn't want the world to read. Cheers, Doug Linzey Read more >> Options >> Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca --0-687726893-1203608891=:7824 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt">I just checked their website and found out that they don't actually have the '@' symbol in our e-mail addresses, instead it's the word 'AT.' However, I don't know how much this can prevent web crawlers from finding them. <br><div><br>Like some of you have said, it would be fine with me if we actually knew that our e-mails were being posted on a public website <span style="font-style: italic;">before</span> we signed onto the list serve and as long as the site was properly protected and it didn't have personal information.<span style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"></span></span><br><br> </div>Lucas Berrigan<br>Eastern shore, HRM, <br>Nova Scotia.<div> </div><div>My site:<br><span><a target="_blank" href="http://www.geocities.com/interpolerater/">http://www.geocities.com/interpolerater/</a></span><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">----- Original Message ----<br>From: Wild Flora <herself@wildflora.com><br>To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<br>Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 9:11:20 AM<br>Subject: RE: [NatureNS] birdingonthe.net<br><br>I can't imagine any theory under which Birding on the Net would NOT be<br>violating copyright law.<br><br>The authors own the copyright to emails we write unless we explicitly assign<br>them to others. Posting to the list gives the list the right to print our<br>emails, but it doesn't extend that permission to anyone else.<br><br>The fact that this list is "public" in the sense that many people read it is<br>not relevant. Material I post to my blog is even more public than what I<br>post here, but I still own it, and nobody has the right to use it without my<br>permission.<br><br>For more on this, check the Wikipedia entry on "blog scraping." Although<br>this practice relates to the use of blog entries without permission, what<br>Birding on the Net is doing is basically the same. Note that the Wikipedia<br>states in no uncertain terms that it is illegal.<br><br>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blog_scraping<br><br>What's more, if Birding on the Net is putting our email addresses online at<br>a permanent site, it is exposing all of us to a giant increase in the amount<br>of spam we receive. Spammers have software that searches the Internet for<br>expressions that contain the "@" sign in order to find addresses to send<br>spam to.<br><br>Wild Flora<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca