[NatureNS] Good Digital Camera Question form Santa

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Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 19:14:28 -0400
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Hi again,

There are all kinds of point and shoots that make great images, including
the Canon G9, Nikon P5100, Sony DSC-W5 that I have, and the Sony DSC-H5 with
a 28-460mm. 35mm. equivalent optical zoom that I also have, and whole lines
of cameras made by Canon, Nikon, Panasonic, Pentax, Olympus, Kodak etc. etc.
None of them are as versatile as dSLRs in many ways, and at extremes of
photography (e.g. faraway birds etc.) are not as good. On the other hand,
there are much smaller. lighter, can do short videos, and easy to stick in a
pocket - as well as being cheaper (although the better P & Ss are not much
cheaper than the entry-level dSLRs.  Gary - of course you know all that
stuff, but there are probably others on NatureNS who don't, and hence this
reply. The original question from Jamie was about dSLRs.

One of the issues with P&Ss is that packing 10 or 12 megapixels into a
physically small sensor dramatically increses "noise", and ISO speeds of
over 100 give poor image quality, and over 200 are usually useless except
for, e.g. record shots of a bird. If people are going to buy a higher end
P&S, I would recommend no more than 7 mpx - preferably 5. You can get
excellent 5 X 7 and acceptable 10 X 8 prints from these. However, it's
harder to get a decent crop, to, say, enlarge a bird in the center of an
image, so as with all things technical, there are compromises to be made.
The other thing beginners might be drawn into with P&Ss is digital zoom.
Unfortunately this enlarges every pixel, and so makes the image look fuzzy
and pixelated. The only zoom that counts is Optical zoom - which acts like a
telephoto lens without enlarging every pixel.

Anyone contemplating buying any digital camera these days would be well
advised to look at www.dpreview.com, and read the detailed reviews of the
ones he/ she is considering, especially in the conclusions page - the pros,
cons, and comparison to the nearest rival.

Good birding/ shooting!

Richard

On Dec 8, 2007 6:27 PM, Gary Murray <garymurray@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:

>  Hi,
>
> I recently read that the Canon G9 12MP P&S makes great images. I've
> attatched a link below of a review by noted Cdn Photographer Darwin Wiggett.
> Hopefully it will open,
>
>  http://www.naturephotographers.net/articles1207/dw1207-1.html
>
>
> Cheers,
> Gary Murray
> Bedford NS
>
>  http://garyamurray.blogspot.com/
> http://www.pbase.com/pgns/gmurray
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Jamie Simpson <jsimpson@win.eastlink.ca>
> *To:* naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 08, 2007 3:54 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [NatureNS] Good Digital Camera Question form Santa
>
> Thanks Richard, he did mention the Canon so I may go with that, appreciate
> the response, peace to all.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Richard Stern <sternrichard@gmail.com>
> *To:* naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 06, 2007 8:12 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [NatureNS] Good Digital Camera Question form Santa
>
> Hi,
>
> The 3 main contenders for an entry level dSLR (digital equivalent of 35mm.
> in film) would be the Canon Rebel XTi, the Nikon D40x, or the Pentax K10.
> They're all around 10mpx, and the Canon seems to be the cheapest. The
> advantage of the Pentax  are that it has vibration reduction built into the
> body, and it's backwardly compatible with old Pentax film camera lenses.
> They all come as a body only, or bundled with a "kit" lens, which is
> generally an 18-55mm. zoom. They have similar specs. They all feel a bit
> different, but should produce excellent photos, so the best bet would to go
> to a store (? Carsand Mosher, or Camera Corner in New Minas) and play with
> all 3. Also, read the reviews on dpReview.com.
>
> Richard
>
> On Dec 6, 2007 7:42 PM, Jamie Simpson <jsimpson@win.eastlink.ca> wrote:
>
> > You've probably answered this 100 times but I'm looking for a good
> > digital
> > camera for my son who has an interest in photography - what is a good
> > deal
> > on an entry level 35mm digital camera?
> >
> > Santa
> >
>
>
>
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Hi again,<br><br>There are all kinds of point and shoots that make great images, including the Canon G9, Nikon P5100, Sony DSC-W5 that I have, and the Sony DSC-H5 with a 28-460mm. 35mm. equivalent optical zoom that I also have, and whole lines of cameras made by Canon, Nikon, Panasonic, Pentax, Olympus, Kodak etc. etc. None of them are as versatile as dSLRs in many ways, and at extremes of photography (
e.g. faraway birds etc.) are not as good. On the other hand, there are much smaller. lighter, can do short videos, and easy to stick in a pocket - as well as being cheaper (although the better P &amp; Ss are not much cheaper than the entry-level dSLRs.&nbsp; Gary - of course you know all that stuff, but there are probably others on NatureNS who don&#39;t, and hence this reply. The original question from Jamie was about dSLRs. 
<br><br>One of the issues with P&amp;Ss is that packing 10 or 12 megapixels into a physically small sensor dramatically increses &quot;noise&quot;, and ISO speeds of over 100 give poor image quality, and over 200 are usually useless except for, 
e.g. record shots of a bird. If people are going to buy a higher end P&amp;S, I would recommend no more than 7 mpx - preferably 5. You can get excellent 5 X 7 and acceptable 10 X 8 prints from these. However, it&#39;s harder to get a decent crop, to, say, enlarge a bird in the center of an image, so as with all things technical, there are compromises to be made. The other thing beginners might be drawn into with P&amp;Ss is digital zoom. Unfortunately this enlarges every pixel, and so makes the image look fuzzy and pixelated. The only zoom that counts is O