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d ------=_Part_2490_8098533.1196184189560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi, For those who have been following another thread started by Jim, I have seen Pile-ee-ated Woodpeckers in Green-idge and Burrwick, but not in Neecum Taw. Richard On Nov 27, 2007 12:17 PM, Christopher Majka <c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote: > Hi Jim & Dave, > On Nov 27, 2007, at 11:26 AM, Jim Wolford wrote: > > And I have always advocated two ways of pronouncing "pileated", i.e. with > long or short "i", and my personal preference is for "pill-e-ated". > > > All these pronunciations are out there, and arguably the birds don't > actually care what they are called, however, technically the > correct pronunciation should be "Pie'-lea-ate-ed", i.e. > four syllables with the emphasis on first one and the "i" pronounced long. > > Pileated comes from the Latin "*pileatus*" (meaning "having the form of a > cap or covering") which in turn derives from the word "*pileus*" (meaning > "a cap or hat"). The stress on these words is on the first syllable and the > "i" is pronounced as a long vowel (as in the word "pile") rather than short > (as in the word "pill"). "*Pi-le-at-us*" is a Latin word of four syllables > so the English word derived from it should also be of four syllables rather > than truncated to three. > > The point could be arguable, however, since although many words of this > derivation employ long "i's" such as *pileform* (in the shape of a cap), * > Pileopsis* (a genus of limpets), *pileous* (covered in hair), and *pileus*(a felt cap worn by Romans), the words > *pileolus* (a receptacle on certain fungi), and *pileorhiza* (a > membraneous cap at the end of a root) are pronounced with a short "i" so > that the first syllable is pronounced as "pill" rather than "pile". > > In any event, I suspect the woodpeckers will be indifferent to one and > all pronunciations. ;-> > > *Quocunque nomine,* > > Chris > > > Cheers from Jim > ---------- > From: David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com> > Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:14:49 -0400 > To: NatureNS@chebucto.ns.ca > Subject: [NatureNS] Pileated WP > > Dear All, Nov 26, 2007 > This afternoon at North Alton a Pileated (pronounced pile-at-ed, so > I was told years ago, not pil-e-at-ed) WP came kuk-kuking in at treetop > level as I got out of the car, did a 270 and landed out of sight near a > White Pine that has a 2 (3?)-yr-old nesting hole. I have not seen this > hole in use but it looks the right size and initially had a lot of resin > which may account for it not haveing been occupied. > > During the next 3 hours the PWP stayed in the general vicinity, > kuk-kuking from various quarters and flying within sight several times > but I heard no tapping suggestive of tree feeding. Would they be staking > claims to nesting holes as early at this ? > Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville > > > Christopher Majka > Nova Scotia Museum, 1747 Summer St., Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada B3H 3A6 > c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca > > > > -- ################# Dr.Richard Stern, 70 Exhibition St. Kentville, NS, Canada B4N 4K9 Richard Stern, 317 Middle Dyke Rd. Port Williams, NS, Canada B0P 1T0 rbstern@ns.sympatico.ca rbstern@xcountry.tv sternrichard@gmail.com ################### ------=_Part_2490_8098533.1196184189560 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi,<br><br>For those who have been following another thread started by Jim, I have seen Pile-ee-ated Woodpeckers in Green-idge and Burrwick, but not in Neecum Taw.<br><br>Richard<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 27, 2007 12:17 PM, Christopher Majka < c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style=""> Hi Jim & Dave,<div><br><div><div>On Nov 27, 2007, at 11:26 AM, Jim Wolford wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin: 0px;"><span>And I have always advocated two ways of pronouncing "pileated", i.e. with</span></div><div style="margin: 0px;">long or short "i", and my personal preference is for "pill-e-ated".</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>All these pronunciations are out there, and arguably the birds don't actually care what they are called, however, technically the correct pronunciation should be "Pie'-lea-ate-ed", i.e. four syllables with the emphasis on first one and the "i" pronounced long.</div><div><br></div><div>Pileated comes from the Latin "<i>pileatus</i>" (meaning "having the form of a cap or covering") which in turn derives from the word " <i>pileus</i>" (meaning "a cap or hat"). The stress on these words is on the first syllable and the "i" is pronounced as a long vowel (as in the word "pile") rather than short (as in the word "pill"). " <i>Pi-le-at-us</i>" is a Latin word of four syllables so the English word derived from it should also be of four syllables rather than truncated to three.</div><div><br></div><div>The point could be arguable, however, since although many words of this derivation employ long "i's" such as <i>pileform</i> (in the shape of a cap), <i>Pileopsis</i> (a genus of limpets), <i>pileous</i> (covered in hair), and <i>pileus</i> (a felt cap worn by Romans), the words <i>pileolus</i> (a receptacle on certain fungi), and <i>pileorhiza</i> (a membraneous cap at the end of a root) are pronounced with a short "i" so that the first syllable is pronounced as "pill" rather than "pile".</div><div><br></div><div>In any event, I suspect the woodpeckers will be indifferent to one and all pronunciations. ;-> </div><div><br></div><div><i>Quocunque nomine,</i></div><div><br></div><div>Chris </div><br><blockquote type="cite"&