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Index of Subjects --Apple-Mail-18-982001914 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi Dave, There was (is?) evidently great use made of the berries and bark of various species of buckthorn for the purposes of dying. I found the following (and many other references as well): "Dyer's Buckthorn (R. tinctoria) is used, together with the Asian Chinese Buckthorn (R. utilis), to produce the dye "china green". Another species, Avignon Buckthorn (R. saxatilis) provides the yellow dye Persian berry, made from the berries." - Wikipedia "(Rhamnus cathartica) Dyes were also sourced from the alder buckthorn, and a yellow dye was produced from the bark, while the unripe alder berries were used in the production of a green dye - these dyes were utilized in various manufactures." - Herbs2000.com "(Rhamnus frangula) The bark and leaves of the Alder Buckthorn yield a yellow dye much used in Russia; when mixed with salts of iron it turns black. The berries, when unripe, afford a good green colour, readily taken by woollen stuffs; when ripe, they give various shades of blue and grey. After removal of the bark from the stem and branches, the wood of this shrub is used for making charcoal, yielding a very light, inflammable kind, and being on that account preferred to that of almost any other tree by gunpowder makers, who name it 'Black Dogwood.' In Germany, for the same reason, it is called Pulverholz ('powder-wood')." - Herbs2000.com "From the dried berries, a series of rich but fugitive colours is obtained; the berries used to be sold under the name of 'French berries' and imported with those of Rhamnus infectorius from the Levant. If gathered before ripe, the berries furnish a yellow dye, used formerly for staining maps or paper. When ripe, if mixed with gum-arabic and limewater, they form the pigment 'Sap or bladder green,' so well known to water-colour painters. The bark also affords a yellow dye." - Botanical.com Cheers, Chris On 13-Sep-07, at 11:59 PM, David & Alison Webster wrote: > Dear All, Sept 13, 2007 > I cut a Common Buckthorn (Rhamnus frangula) on Aug 22 & noticed > that the bark still peeled off readily and was bright yellow inside. > > When simmered for an hour or so, bark chunks released a yellow > dye that stained some cheesecloth bright yellow and this color is > still present after two washings (no soap). > > The dye solution, after sitting in a glass container over > several weeks became progressively darker and now stains > cheesecloth brown with a hint of red. > > I wonder if this bark was used as a natural dye ? > > Yt, DW, Kentville _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._. _. Christopher Majka - Nova Scotia Museum of Natural History 1747 Summer Street, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada B3H 3A6 (902) 424-6435 Email <c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca> _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._. _. --Apple-Mail-18-982001914 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 <html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "> Hi Dave,<div><br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>There was = (is?) evidently great use made of the berries and bark of various = species of buckthorn for the purposes of dying. I found the following = (and many other references as well):</div><div><p>"Dyer's Buckthorn = (<i>R. tinctoria</i>) is used, together with the Asian Chinese Buckthorn = (R. utilis), to produce the dye "china green". Another species, Avignon = Buckthorn (<i>R. saxatilis</i>) provides the yellow dye Persian berry, = made from the berries." - Wikipedia</p><p>"(<i>Rhamnus cathartica</i>) = Dyes were also sourced from the alder buckthorn, and a yellow dye was = produced from the bark, while the unripe alder berries were used in the = production of a green dye - these dyes were utilized in various = manufactures." - Herbs2000.com</p><p>"(<i>Rhamnus frangula</i>)=A0The = bark and leaves of the Alder Buckthorn yield a yellow dye much used in = Russia; when mixed with salts of iron it turns black. The berries, when = unripe, afford a good green colour, readily taken by woollen stuffs; = when ripe, they give various shades of blue and grey.=A0After removal of = the bark from the stem and branches, the wood of this shrub is used for = making charcoal, yielding a very light, inflammable kind, and being on = that account preferred to that of almost any other tree by gunpowder = makers, who name it 'Black Dogwood.' In Germany, for the same reason, it = is called Pulverholz ('powder-wood')."=A0- Herbs2000.com</p> <p>"=46rom = the dried berries, a series of rich but fugitive colours is obtained; = the berries used to be sold under the name of 'French berries' and = imported with those of <i>Rhamnus infectorius</i> from the Levant. If = gathered before ripe, the berries furnish a yellow dye, used formerly = for staining maps or paper. When ripe, if mixed with gum-arabic and = limewater, they form the pigment 'Sap or bladder green,' so well known = to water-colour painters. The bark also affords a yellow dye." - = Botanical.com</p><p>Cheers,</p><p>Chris</p> <div><div>On 13-Sep-07, at = 11:59 PM, David & Alison Webster wrote:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">Dear All,<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 =A0= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 </span>Sept 13, 2007</div><div style=3D"margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0=A0 </span>I cut a Common Buckthorn = (Rhamnus frangula) on Aug 22 & noticed that the bark still peeled = off readily and was bright yellow inside.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; = min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0=A0 </span>When simmered for an hour = or so,<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>bark chunks = released a yellow dye that stained some cheesecloth bright yellow and = this color is still present after two washings (no soap).</div><div = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0=A0 </span>The dye solution, after = s