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Hi Angus, Jim and Peter,
I too am rather confused by this "current knowledge". I was under the impression that the Monarchs that we are seeing now are the ones which over-winter in the forested mountains of Michoecan in Mexico. Then, when they leave the forests in late February and March, they may only fly to Texas before stopping to lay eggs, etc and the next generation continues the northward migration. The Monarchs we see here in the summer will be several generations removed from the ones which left Mexico in March.
Wendy and her fellow walkers, members of the Wacky Wednesday Woman Walkers group, saw an estimated 50 Monarchs this morning on their excursion to Herring Cove/Tribune Head.
Wendy and I visited the Monarch wintering area in the Michoecan mountains west of Mexico City in January 2004. We visited five refuges in all, all above 2900 m. Quite a spectacle to say the least. We went with a British company called Nature Trek and met up with the group in Mexico City. We also saw lots of interesting birds in the mountains as well. Anyone wishing further information can contact me off line.
Cheers,
Bob McDonald
Halifax
bobathome@hfx.eastlink.ca
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From: Angus MacLean
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] FW: re Monarchs, lots, at Barrington, Sandhills Park, and Port la Tour
Hi Jim and all:
As I understand it current knowledge has it that "our" Monarchs do not reach the Mexican mountains but actually fly a distance south before laying eggs, etc. and their offspring continue the journey, perhaps having to repeat the process before that line of Monarchs reach their wintering grounds. Is this correct?
Angus
At 11:12 AM 9/27/2006, Jim wrote:
Murray and others, Thanks for your updates on the migrant monarchs. Every time I see one now I think of that marvelous trip they all are undertaking, all the way down to those 10.000-foot mountains in Mexico! How I'd like to visit them down there, and hopefully I will eventually do so.
Please keep us informed from time to time about how many monarchs you are seeing during the entire autumn. My memory tells me that once I heard from Peter Smith about loads of migrating monarchs on Bon Portage Island in mid-November!, many years ago. I must try to find that small piece of paper in my thick file folder on monarchs.
Thanks, too, for Ian McLaren's note about the monarchs being in bumper-crop numbers this year in Quebec and Ontario. I remember in 1997 that our large numbers of monarchs were mirrored out west in Saskatchewan, and also in southern Ontario.
Cheers from Jim in Wolfville
From: dowitcher <dowitcher@eastlink.ca>
Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:39:36 -0300
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Barrington
hi roland we have had them in lot larger numbers than this back in the 90's, its just great to see them on the comeback.
lots around the island today also.
cheers murray
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From: roland.mccormick@ns.sympatico.ca
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Barrington
Yesterday I reported monarchs from Sandhills - today it was Powell's Beach (the ponds, Port La Tour). There were monarchs everywhere - I would guess I saw about twenty scattered around over the meadow behind the beach.
I have noticed all of the monarchs being reported - it makes a person wonder what is going on - I never saw them in numbers like this before.
Roland.
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From: roland.mccormick@ns.sympatico.ca
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Barrington
Today I visited Sandhills Park - nothing much around for birds, but I did see 11 monarch butterflies. They were not together - everywhere I went there seemed to be one or two. They seemed to be visiting the goldenrod - the only other flowers were the wild aster. There seemed to be lots of both kinds of flowers around.
Roland.
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Hi Angus, Jim and Peter,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I too am rather confused by this "current knowledge". I
was under the impression that the Monarchs that we are seeing now are the ones
which over-winter in the forested mountains of Michoecan in Mexico.
Then, when they leave the forests in late February and March, they may only fly
to Texas before stopping to lay eggs, etc and the next generation continues the
northward migration. The Monarchs we see here in the summer will
be several generations removed from the ones which left Mexico in
March.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Wendy and her fellow walkers, members of the Wacky Wednesday
Woman Walkers group, saw an estimated 50 Monarchs this morning on their
excursion to Herring Cove/Tribune Head.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Wendy and I visited the Monarch wintering area in the
Michoecan mountains west of Mexico City in January 2004. We visited five
refuges in all, all above 2900 m. Quite a spectacle to say the
least. We went with a British company called Nature Trek and met up
with the group in Mexico City. We also saw lots of interesting birds in
the mountains as well. Anyone wishing further information can contact me
off line.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Cheers,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Bob McDonald</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Hali