[NatureNS] Fall Monarchs - migrants or breeders?

Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:52:54 -0300
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Hi, Angus-

This is news to me - I must be behind the times. I had always thought that the Monarchs we are now seeing in such numbers were non-breeding migrants, on their way to Mexico.

Can you remember where you got this information? I'd be very interested in finding out more.

Peter Payzant


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Angus MacLean 
  To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 1:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [NatureNS] FW: re Monarchs, lots, at Barrington, Sandhills Park, and Port la Tour


  Hi Jim and all:
  As I understand it current knowledge has it that "our" Monarchs do not reach the Mexican mountains but actually fly a distance south before laying eggs, etc. and their offspring continue the journey, perhaps having to repeat the process before that line of Monarchs reach their wintering grounds. Is this correct?
  Angus

  At 11:12 AM 9/27/2006, Jim wrote:

    Murray and others, Thanks for your updates on the migrant monarchs.  Every time I see one now I think of that marvelous trip they all are undertaking, all the way down to those 10.000-foot mountains in Mexico!  How I'd like to visit them down there, and hopefully I will eventually do so.

    Please keep us informed from time to time about how many monarchs you are seeing during the entire autumn.  My memory tells me that once I heard from Peter Smith about loads of migrating monarchs on Bon Portage Island in mid-November!, many years ago.  I must try to find that small piece of paper in my thick file folder on monarchs.

    Thanks, too, for Ian McLaren's note about the monarchs being in bumper-crop numbers this year in Quebec and Ontario.  I remember in 1997 that our large numbers of monarchs were mirrored out west in Saskatchewan, and also in southern Ontario.

    Cheers from Jim in Wolfville

    From: dowitcher <dowitcher@eastlink.ca>
    Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
    Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:39:36 -0300
    To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
    Subject: Re: [NatureNS]  Barrington

    hi roland we have had them in lot larger numbers than this back in the 90's, its just great to see them on the comeback.
                   lots around the island today also.
    cheers murray
             

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      From: roland.mccormick@ns.sympatico.ca 

      To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca 

      Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 5:17 PM

      Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Barrington


      Yesterday I reported monarchs from Sandhills - today it was Powell's Beach (the ponds, Port La Tour). There were monarchs everywhere - I would guess I saw about twenty scattered around over the meadow behind the beach.

      I have noticed all of the monarchs being reported - it makes a person wonder what is going on - I never saw them in numbers like this before.


      Roland.

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: roland.mccormick@ns.sympatico.ca 

        To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca 

        Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 5:34 PM

        Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Barrington


        Today I visited Sandhills Park - nothing much around for birds, but I did see 11 monarch butterflies.  They were not together - everywhere I went there seemed to be one or two.  They seemed to be visiting the goldenrod - the only other flowers were the wild aster. There seemed to be lots of both kinds of flowers around.


        Roland.




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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi, Angus-</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This is news to me - I must be behind the times. I 
had always thought that the Monarchs we are now seeing in such numbers were 
non-breeding migrants, on their way to Mexico.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Can you remember where you got this information? 
I'd be very interested in finding out more.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Peter Payzant</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=angusmcl@ns.sympatico.ca href="mailto:angusmcl@ns.sympatico.ca">Angus 
  MacLean</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=naturens@chebucto.ns.ca 
  href="mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 27, 2006 1:42 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NatureNS] FW: re Monarchs, 
  lots, at Barrington, Sandhills Park, and Port la Tour</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Jim and all:<BR>As I understand it current knowledge has it 
  that "our" Monarchs do not reach the Mexican mountains but actually fly a 
  distance south before laying eggs, etc. and their offspring continue the 
  journey, perhaps having to repeat the process before that line of Monarchs 
  reach their wintering grounds. Is this correct?<BR>Angus<BR><BR>At 11:12 AM 
  9/27/2006, Jim wrote:<BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite">Murray and others, Thanks for 
    your updates on the migrant monarchs.&nbsp; Every time I see one now I think 
    of that marvelous trip they all are undertaking, all the way down to those 
    10.000-foot mountains in Mexico!&nbsp; How I'd like to visit them down 
    there, and hopefully I will eventually do so.<BR><BR>Please keep us informed 
    from time to time about how many monarchs you are seeing during the entire 
    autumn.&nbsp; My memory tells me that once I heard from Peter Smith about 
    loads of migrating monarchs on Bon Portage Island in mid-November!, many 
    years ago.&nbsp; I must try to find that small piece of paper in my thick 
    file folder on monarc