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Index of Subjects --Apple-Mail-382-214658583 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi Jim, The Modern World Dictionary of the English Language (1906) says the following: From the Anglo-saxon nep meaning "scanty", from the verb nip. The Anglo-saxons said neap-flod and heah-flod (meaning low and high tides. In Middle-English this became neep. Related to the Icelandic neppr & hneppr = scanty, and the Danish knap = scanty, narrow, strait, & neppe = scarcely. Cheers! Chris On 3-Aug-06, at 11:07 AM, Jim Wolford wrote: > Dusan's note reminds me to ask something: does anyone know where > the word "neap" comes from? I have asked this many times, > including to expert Roy Bishop in Avonport, and nobody seems to > know. I'll bet some know-it-all on this list can come up with an/ > the answer?! > > My 3-volume Webster's Third Int'l Dictionary says the following: > > (a) piece of wood used to hold up the front or the tongue of a wagon; > > (b) "neaped" means left aground by the high water of a spring tide > -- ??? > > Thanks in advance for all attempts, from Jim in Wolfivlle > ---------- > From: Dusan Soudek <soudekd@ns.sympatico.ca> > Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:40:12 -0300 > To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Re: Tides Halifax Harbour > > Hi all, > yes, there can be a huge difference between predicted and actual > tides, particularly in tidal rivers and in shallow seas. For > example, the Shubie is tidal for some 45-49 km from its mouth. The > timing of the so-called tidal bore and the dead high tide depends > not only on the size of the tide (neap vs. spring), but on winds, > atmospheric pressure, and the amount of flow in the river. > This is also true for the St. John River in N.B., where the > tides around Fredericton and in Grand Lake (and elsewhere) are > discernible only during very low-flow times of the year. > Dusan Soudek > > Paul MacDonald wrote: > Hi Blake and All > High tides or low ones for that matter have > variability based on winds, air pressure and so on so > if you were to measure exactly when the highest water > was or the lowest - these time measurements would have > some noise. > Often when out in tidal water you will note the tidal > start to fall and then reverse itself and come up some > more. > The thing is not to get to tied up on exact times. > Have a nice summer > Paul > > > _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._. _. Christopher Majka - Nova Scotia Museum of Natural History 1747 Summer Street, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada B3H 3A6 (902) 424-6435 Email <c.majka@ns.sympatico.ca> _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._. _. --Apple-Mail-382-214658583 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 <HTML><BODY style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; = -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Jim,<DIV><BR = class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>The Modern World Dictionary = of the English Language (1906) says the following:</DIV><DIV><BR = class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><SPAN = class=3D"Apple-style-span">=46rom the Anglo-saxon <I>nep</I> meaning = "scanty", from the verb <I>nip</I>. The Anglo-saxons said = <I>neap-flod</I> and <I>heah-flod</I> (meaning low and high tides. In = Middle-English this became <I>neep</I>. Related to the Icelandic = <I>neppr</I> & <I>hneppr</I> =3D scanty, and the Danish <I>knap</I> = =3D scanty, narrow, strait, & <I>neppe</I> =3D = scarcely.=A0</SPAN></DIV><DIV><BR = class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Cheers!</DIV><DIV><BR = class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Chris</DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV= >On 3-Aug-06, at 11:07 AM, Jim Wolford wrote:</DIV><BR = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"> Dusan's = note reminds me to ask something: does anyone know where the word "neap" = comes from? =A0I have asked this many times, including to expert Roy = Bishop in Avonport, and nobody seems to know. =A0I'll bet some = know-it-all on this list can come up with an/the answer?!<BR> <BR> My = 3-volume Webster's Third Int'l Dictionary says the following:<BR> <BR> = (a) piece of wood used to hold up the front or the tongue of a = wagon;<BR> <BR> (b) "neaped" means left aground by the high water of a = spring tide -- ???<BR> <BR> Thanks in advance for all attempts, from Jim = in Wolfivlle<BR> ----------<BR> <B>From: </B>Dusan Soudek <<A = href=3D"mailto:soudekd@ns.sympatico.ca">soudekd@ns.sympatico.ca</A>><BR= > <B>Reply-To: </B><A = href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A><BR> = <B>Date: </B>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:40:12 -0300<BR> <B>To: = </B>naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<BR> <B>Subject: </B>Re: [NatureNS] Re: Tides = Halifax Harbour<BR> <BR> Hi all,<BR> =A0=A0=A0yes, there can be a huge = difference between <I>predicted </I>and <I>actual</I> tides, = particularly in tidal rivers and in shallow seas. For example, the = Shubie is tidal for some 45-49 km from its mouth. The timing of the = so-called tidal bore and the dead high tide depends not only on the size = of the tide (neap vs. spring), but on winds, atmospheric pressure, and = the amount of flow in the river. <BR> =A0=A0=A0This is also true for the = St. John River in N.B., where the tides around Fredericton and in Grand = Lake (and elsewhere) are discernible only during very low-flow times of = the year.<BR> =A0=A0=A0Dusan Soudek<BR> <BR> Paul MacDonald wrote:<BR> = <BLOCKQUOTE>Hi Blake and All<BR> High tides or low ones for that matter = have<BR> variability based on winds, air pressure and so on so<BR> if = you were to measure exactly when the highest water<BR> was or the lowest = - these time measurements would have<BR> some noise.<BR> Often when out = in tidal water you will note the tidal<BR> start to fall and then = reverse itself and come up some<BR> more.<BR> The thing is not to get to = tied up on exact times.<BR> Have a nice summer<BR> Paul<BR> <BR> =A0<BR> = </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><DIV> <P style=3D"margin: = 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face=