As of Tues, 9 Apr 1996 from Phil Barter come some comments on Pasties and Cornwall: [Many apologies to Phil for taking so long to add this to the recipe files. I formatted his note, checked with him then misplaced it. If anyone should have genealogy or other information which might be of interest to Phil and his family his e-mail address is <barter@max-net.com>.] My grandparents, (Fred and Janie Giles) were from Cornwall and my grandfather was a butcher who had two shops on Vancouver Island in the 30's and 40's. I can still recall my grandmother's Cornish Pasties even though my grandparents passed away in the 40's when I would be ten or eleven. ... I insist to my family that the meat has to be skirt steak, although it is hard to find unless you know the butcher. Most butchers take the skirt home, as not many people know how good it is and they don't want them to find out. ... For my pasties I go heavy on the onion, but don't use turnip, but maybe I'll try some next time. I find the good steak, lots of onion and potatoes to be enough, as do my family. My wife is the pastry maker, and we use flour, lard and salt and a little cold water, but now thinking about it, I believe my grandmother added a little suet. Since my wife has misplaced the quantities for her recipe, I would be interested in hearing if you also have an authentic pastry recipe. I would love to visit Cornwall some time. When my Grandfather lived there he was a patron to a painter named Hayward Young who used the pen name "Jotter", and our family has a lot of his paintings of the beauty of Cornwall such as the Devil's Caldron and the thatched cottages and fishing villages etc. I hope to start a geneology search for the Giles.