cfn change

Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 11:50:47 -0400 (AST)
From: "Norman L. DeForest" <af380@chebucto.ns.ca>
To: Christopher Majka <nextug@is.dal.ca>
cc: "David L. Potter" <potter@chebucto.ns.ca>, Jane Kansas <as300@chebucto.ns.ca>, CCN Userhelp <userhelp@chebucto.ns.ca>, ccn-ip@chebucto.ns.ca
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It might also be worth using some of the special features of the search
engines to look for sites with specific links.  To look for links to
"ccn.cs.dal.ca/~af380" (as a totally random example) that are NOT on CCN,
the syntax for AltaVista in the Advanced Search page would be

   link:ccn.cs.dal.ca/~af380 AND NOT url:ccn.cs.dal.ca

A search on 

   link:ccn.cs.dal.ca/Culture/HarperLee/ AND NOT  url:ccn.cs.dal.ca

http://www.altavista.com/cgi-bin/query?pg=aq&amp;text=yes&amp;kl=XX&amp;r=&amp;act=search&amp;q=link%3Accn.cs.dal.ca%2FCulture%2FHarperLee%2F+AND+NOT%0a+url%3Accn.cs.dal.ca&amp;d0=&amp;d1=

finds this page:

"Chris Bohjalian - Burlington Vermont - Date: 11/02/98"
http://burlingtonvt.miningco.com/library/weekly/aa110298.htm

Link [29] on the page uses the "ccn.cs.dal.ca" domain to link to the
Harper Lee page.  You might want to drop the webmaster a line.


A search for sites that use explicit "cfn" or "ccn" URLs finds almost
fifteen hundred of them listed on AltaVista alone and any visitor that
uses those links and then follows relative URLs on the ccn/cfn pages and
bookmarks anything will also be using the old domains in their bookmarks.

http://www.altavista.com/cgi-bin/query?pg=aq&text=yes&kl=XX&r=&act=search&q=link%3Acfn.cs.dal.ca+AND%0a+NOT+url%3Acfn.cs.dal.ca&d0=&d1=

   Enter boolean expression:
   
   link:cfn.cs.dal.ca AND NOT url:cfn.cs.dal.ca______

   AltaVista found about 6639 Web pages for you. 
      
http://www.altavista.com/cgi-bin/query?pg=aq&text=yes&kl=XX&r=&act=search&q=link%3Accn.cs.dal.ca+AND++NOT+url%3Accn.cs.dal.ca&d0=&d1=
   
   Enter boolean expression:
   
   link:ccn.cs.dal.ca AND NOT url:ccn.cs.dal.ca______

   AltaVista found about 8077 Web pages for you. 
   

On Tue, 1 Dec 1998, Christopher Majka wrote:

> Hi Jane!
> 
> On Tue, 1 Dec 1998, David L. Potter wrote:
> 
> > Probably by someone linking to your site and using cfn/ccn in the link. 
> > We're going to actively 'encourage' the search engines to re-index using the 
> > proper address... we're not going to turn off the old address until we're 
> > satisfied that we're not going to cause a significant loss of access.
> > 
> > david potter
> > 
> > On Tue, 1 Dec 1998, Jane Kansas wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi Although I have never used 'cfn' I see that my IP site is listed in 
> > > some search engine results with 'cfn'... how did that conversion take 
> > > place? Will those listings be dead ends? Thanks for your time.  
> 
> One thing you can (and I would) do is  to do some searches on several
> search engines looking for Harper Lee:
> 
> I just did the following with Alta Vista, Look Smart, Netscape, Excite,
> Infoseek & Lycos and found the following:
> 
> *www.chebucto.ns.ca*
> 
> Lycos
> 
> Harper Lee & To Kill a Mockingbird <DL Harper Lee Biography (Yes, Miss Lee
> is still alive.) Contains information about
> http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Culture/HarperLee/ 
> 
> *www.ccn.cs.dal.ca*
> 
> Alta Vista
> 
> Harper Lee & To Kill a Mockingbird
> Biography of Miss Lee and information on her novel. Links to other
> Mockingbird sites. List of further readings.
> URL: http://www.ccn.cs.dal.ca/Culture/HarperLee/
> Last modified 16-Sep-98 - page size 4K - in English [ Translate ]
> 
> LookSmart
> 
> Harper Lee & To Kill a Mockingbird
> Biography of Miss Lee and information on her novel. Links to other
> Mockingbird sites. List of further readings. Size 4K - 16-Sep-98
> http://www.ccn.cs.dal.ca/Culture/HarperLee
> 
> *www.cfn.cs.dal.ca*
> 
> Netscape
> 
> 71% Harper Lee & To Kill a Mockingbird  
> URL: http://www.cfn.cs.dal.ca/cfn/Culture/HarperLee/ 
> Summary: Biography of Miss Lee and information on her novel. Links to
> other Mockingbird sites. List of further readings. 
> 
> Excite
> 
> 71% Harper Lee & To Kill a Mockingbird  - Biography of Miss Lee and
> information on her novel. Links to other Mockingbird sites. List of
> further readings. http://www.cfn.cs.dal.ca/cfn/Culture/HarperLee/ 
> 
> *no listing*
> 
> Infoseek
> 
> Ergo, you should submit your URL and get listed! ;->
> 
> This indicates that most search engines (with the exception of Lycos) have
> your pages listed via either old URL. Most of these (and other) search
> engines have a mechanism whereby you can submit ammendments or corrections
> to listings so I would go there and get them to update their indicies.
> 
> Ciao!
> 
> Chris
> 
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> Christopher Majka                               <aa051@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Editor-in-Chief: Chebucto Community Net - Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
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> 
> "We have ... in this country ... far too many captive editors who cannot 
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> 
> 

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