gawk vs sql

From: jwarnica@ns.sympatico.ca (Jeff Warnica)
To: "John Nemeth" <jnemeth@victoria.tc.ca>, "Michael Smith" <michael@csuite.ns.ca>
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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 21:02:21 -0300
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different since t

I was planing on not continuing this discussion anymore since I realized I
don't care.. Im even considering putting in something to the effect of "This
code can be redistributed provided that it is for free (excludind resonable
media costs and/or subscription costs) and that if it is redistributed in a
package absolutely no restrictions are put on the packages redistribution,
including philosophical ones excluding 'haves'" in my stuff that happens to
find its way on to chebuctos machines to implicitly deny CSuite any actual
work of mine.

But I do have to address this:

> } > } More complex? SQL would be far less complex, and more easily
> } > expanded on.
> } >
> } >      A real database program is more complex to setup and
> maintain then
> } > a bunch of text files.
> }
> } I supose it depends on how you look at it. With a SQL database,
> thats some
> } one elses problem, to a programer it may as whell just be a magic box.
>
>      So, are text files.  We are talking about programmer's here, or
> people taking on a programming role.  If you want to change things, you
> have to figure out how to use the back-end regardless of what it is, or
> the interface to it.  I really don't see the point of this statement.

I am quite aware of CSuite making a great effort to reinvent the wheel
whenever possible, mucking around with other peoples code, putting things
where they shouldn't go and the like, but you not actually thinking of
writing a SQL database backend are you?

Im thing Im a pretty smart guy, and If I cared, I would have continued my CS
program and probably done quite well. But I don't care about things like
creating a SQL database backend. I dont care about writing kernels for toy
OSs in a classroom, either. I care about using computers to get something
done. Computation gratis computation not.

Unfortunatly there are no pretty pictures, because the cache dosent cache
those, but It wont matter because the Csuite philosiphy is to force everyone
to use unusable tools, so you wouldnt beable to see them any way, but you
should spend 5 minutes reading
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:1621214&dq=cache:themes.org/totd/guest/
archive/jwz/ That interview has significantly changed my views of computers
and the internet. Specificly:

"
Operating systems matter deeply to
programmers, but in the big picture,
they're old news. It's all about the network,
and the applications that let you get
benefit from the network. Using a
computer isn't an end in itself, it's merely a
means to an end. The focus must always
be on the task that the *person* wants to
accomplish, to communicate, to learn, to
create, to be entertained. Insofar as the
computer itself makes itself known in this
process, the computer is an impediment.
"
is important.

But if you feel like banging your head against a wall, Ill even let you come
over to my apartment next time your in Hfx and bang away. Recently a old
version of MySQL was GNUd, so you can grab the sources and sufficiently fuck
around with it to make it usable outside CSuite and unusable inside CSuite
to people who don't want to spend a year of there life trying to figure out
the sometimes brilliant, usually perverse, but always twisted and random
logic of CSuite.

And thats not even inclugin people who arent quite programmers but can find
there way around a 5gl like Access that cant touch *db at all.

Access for all, not just smart poor people.

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