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Hi Dave & All,

     I have some obtained in 1991 from the old swamp just west of 
Annapolis Royal. A couple or rhizomes should get you started.

Dave W.


On 6/17/2020 8:44 AM, David Simpson wrote:
> I have a swampy spot on my small property in Windsor where I would 
> like to establish native phragmites. If anyone knows of a patch nearby 
> please reach out.
>
> /Dave in Curry's Corner/
> /
> /
> David Simpson
> (902) 580 8007
> david.sonsimp@gmail.com <mailto:david.sonsimp@gmail.com>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 9:25 PM Nick Hill <fernhillns@gmail.com 
> <mailto:fernhillns@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     / Phragmites australis /ssp./australis /occurs at various places
>     on many of the 100 series highways (103, 101, 102 , 107 ). While
>     it is good to eliminate the plant where feasible, there is a
>     trade-off between the pain (e.g. the disturbance of herbiciding
>     areas of the Tantramar) and the gain. From a terrestrial wetland
>     point of view, I can't vouch for the biodiversity value of the
>     Tantramar--it seems an anthropogenically disturbed landscape, but
>     correct me if mistaken. There are good reasons to eliminate
>     /Phragmites australis /ssp./australis /where it is scattered along
>     these 100 series highways because they are small patches and
>     conduits to high biodiversity wetlands throughout the
>     province...e.g. the marshes of the Musquodoboit valley or riparian
>     marshes of SW Nova that support the native subspecies /americanus. /
>
>     The native subspecies is more delicate, the culms are thinner--
>     usually reddish (vs. green-yellow)--and in my experience, they are
>     most common on wind-exposed, lakeshore fens. While ssp americanus
>     has a S4 ranking, I would say it was rare.
>     Nick
>     /
>     /
>
>     On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 12:13 PM Frederick W. Schueler
>     <bckcdb@istar.ca <mailto:bckcdb@istar.ca>> wrote:
>
>         Maritimers,
>
>         Listening to the discussion of the Tantramar marshes on the
>         Sunday
>         Edition yesterday, and not hearing any discussion of invasive
>         European
>         Phragmites there, I'm forwarding this warning from 2004, and
>         from 2010 -
>         https://karstaddailypaintings.blogspot.com/2010/10/view-from-beausejour.html
>
>         - in the hopes that there's some possibility of action.
>
>         from the 2010 report: "This is the one place in the Maritimes
>         where the
>         invasive European Phragmites australis subspecies australis
>         has been
>         reported, so we are interested in seeing how conditions here
>         compare to
>         what we'd observed elsewhere in New Brunswick and Nova
>         Scotia... we
>         drove the busy road across the marshes both ways, waypointing
>         stands and
>         taking representative specimens...
>
>         "The first thing we noticed was that the stands were very
>         distinctly
>         divided into native-like and invasive-like kinds: we counted
>         11 alien
>         and 7 native stands, and only 1 that we called ambiguous,
>         though the
>         natives graded out into little whisps, and we doubtless missed
>         some of
>         these which an observer on foot could have waypointed. The
>         most striking
>         feature of this difference was the persistent green foliage of
>         the
>         aliens, in contrast to the shriveled get-ready-for-winter
>         brown of the
>         natives (one often sees that alien plants from NW Europe
>         retain green
>         leaves far longer than native plants do).
>
>         "Those on NatureNS will remember that throughout Nova Scotia
>         we were
>         perplexed by the intermediacy and confusing morphology of the
>         majority
>         of the Phragmites stands we sampled there: at Tantramar there
>         was no
>         ambiguity, and the natives didn't look much different from the
>         ones we
>         see in Ontario".
>
>         Those of us in Ontario have seen how completely the invasive
>         Phragmites
>         can take over wide areas, and really wish action could be
>         taken in the
>         Maritimes before the task becomes impossible.
>
>         fred.
>         ====================================================
>
>         -------- Forwarded Message --------
>         Subject: Catling & company on invasive Phragmites in the
>         Maritimes (& Nfld)
>         Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:39:08 -0500
>         From: Frederick W. Schueler <bckcdb@istar.ca
>         <mailto:bckcdb@istar.ca>>
>         Organization: Bishops Mills Natural History Centre
>         To: NATURENB@LISTSERV.UNB.CA <mailto:NATURENB@LISTSERV.UNB.CA>
>         <NATURENB@LISTSERV.UNB.CA <mailto:NATURENB@LISTSERV.UNB.CA>>
>
>         New Brunswickers,
>
>         I urge you to read the appended article (which has just come
>         out in
>         BEN), very carefully, and to take action to suppress stands of
>         the alien
>         race. All you need to do is to drive along the eastern shore
>         of NB, and
>         then drive along the shore roads of New Jersey (solid alien
>         Phragmites
>         as far as the eye can see), to envisage just what you don't
>         want your
>         province to become. The Fundy shore is more different from New
>         Jersey,
>         so the geomorphic comparison isn't so close, but solid stands of
>         Phragmites would be equally undesireable there.
>
>         fred.
>         ------------------------------------------------------------
>         ------------------------------------------------------------
>         BOTANICAL ELECTRONIC NEWS No. 324, March 16, 2004
>         <aceska@victoria.tc.ca <mailto:aceska@victoria.tc.ca>>        
>             Victoria, B.C.
>         -----------------------------------------------------------
>           Dr. A. Ces