[NatureNS] Question: Starling Behaviour

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Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 10:52:31 -0300
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Education is incremental.  However there birders who should know better who
still employ pishing.

On Wed., May 20, 2020, 08:08 John Kearney, <j.f.kearney@gmail.com> wrote:

> That is unfortunate, and those who are doing so are not following the
> ethical guidelines of Birds Canada and the American Birding Association. In
> some cases, judicious use of playback is considered permissible for
> conservation research. However, as noted in an earlier discussion in this
> forum, this is increasingly unnecessary with the availability of autonomous
> recording units.
>
>
>
> *From:* naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca *On Behalf Of *Shouty McShoutsalot
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 20, 2020 07:21
> *To:* naturens <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
> *Subject:* Re: [NatureNS] Question: Starling Behaviour
>
>
>
> Re mobbing calls regrettably it is still a common practice among birders.
> With cell phones and birding apps its easy to produce and playback them at
> will.
>
>
>
> On Tue., May 19, 2020, 21:38 John Kearney, <j.f.kearney@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Burkhard,
> Many bird species have mobbing calls. You may have seen the Black-capped
> Chickadee doing this many times. Perhaps you thought it was curious about
> you but more likely, it was letting other birds know of your presence. One
> of the fascinating things about mobbing calls is that some species
> understand the unique mobbing calls of another species as a mobbing call
> and will join in multi-species harassment of a predator. Mobbing works, it
> is believed, not so much because the predator is frightened, but because it
> has been outed. It has lost the advantage of a surprise attack. In the
> past, birders would play recordings of mobbing calls to attract a wide
> variety of species, and with the hopes flushing out a rare bird. Birders
> have abandoned this practice since it causes unnecessary stress to the
> birds and distracts them from more important tasks such as feeding young or
> building up fat reserves for their migration.
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca On Behalf Of Burkhard Plache
> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 18:59
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: [NatureNS] Question: Starling Behaviour
>
> Hello fellow naturalists:
>
> We have a pair of starlings is raising its brood in a former hairy
> woodpecker cavity in our front yard. Today, there were some 10-12 starlings
> scattered in the nearby branches. A few minutes later, a big ruckus broke
> out, with a squirrel departing the tree at high speed pursued by some 5-6
> of the starlings.
>
> My question is: Are starlings known to band together in times of trouble?
> If so, they must have some means of calling for help in case of a threat.
>
> Curious,
> Burkhard
>
>

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<div dir=3D"auto">Education is incremental.=C2=A0 However there birders who=
 should know better who still employ pishing.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed., May 20, 2020, 08:08 J=
ohn Kearney, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:j.f.kearney@gmail.com">j.f.kearney@gmail=
.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN=
-CA" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div class=3D"m_8430785323210452044Word=
Section1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">That is u=
nfortunate, and those who are doing so are not following the ethical guidel=
ines of Birds Canada and the American Birding Association. In some cases, j=
udicious use of playback is considered permissible for conservation researc=
h. However, as noted in an earlier discussion in this forum, this is increa=
singly unnecessary with the availability of autonomous recording units. <u>=
</u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0p=
t"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:soli=
d #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> <a href=3D"mailto:natu=
rens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">naturens-ow=
ner@chebucto.ns.ca</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Shouty McShoutsalot<br><b>Sent:<=
/b> Wednesday, May 20, 2020 07:21<br><b>To:</b> naturens &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">naturens@=
chebucto.ns.ca</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NatureNS] Question: Starling=
 Behaviour<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Re mobbing calls regrettably it i=
s still a common practice among birders.=C2=A0 With cell phones and birding=
 apps its easy to produce and playback them at will.<u></u><u></u></p></div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal">On Tue., May 19, 2020, 21:38 John Kearney, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:j.f.=
kearney@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">j.f.kearney@gmail.c=
om</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;b=
order-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;=
margin-right:0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi =
Burkhard,<br>Many bird species have mobbing calls. You may have seen the Bl=
ack-capped Chickadee doing this many times. Perhaps you thought it was curi=
ous about you but more likely, it was letting other birds know of your pres=
ence. One of the fascinating things about mobbing calls is that some specie=
s understand the unique mobbing calls of another species as a mobbing call =
and will join in multi-species harassment of a predator. Mobbing works, it =
is believed, not so much because the predator is frightened, but because it=
 has been outed. It has lost the advantage of a surprise attack. In the pas=
t, birders would play recordings of mobbing calls to attract a wide var